Final Round
Here's the final round matchup for Greatest PM We Never Had. I figure between this and the leadership projections, that should give people enough to talk about in the comments section over that time.
posted by calgarygrit at 3:47 p.m.
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35 Comments:
I take it the SDA crew have been here. That's like choosing between gonnereah and syphylis.
A well, gotta go with Stansfield then. And old PC and no creeping insanity in a few years time.
By Mike, at 4:07 p.m.
Oh well. In spite of SDA's games, we ALL know who would have won in a REAL election between McKenna and Manning.
By KC, at 4:43 p.m.
Of we all know who would have won... the guy who threw the football.
By Joe Calgary, at 5:00 p.m.
I've gotta give my vote to Stanfield - Red Tory!
By Harrap, at 5:18 p.m.
I've got to put my vote behind Stanfield. I actually like the guy. He seemed like a reasonable, red tory type.
By Zac, at 6:30 p.m.
He looks totally stoned in that picture, though.
By Idealistic Pragmatist, at 7:04 p.m.
I mean, geeh how dare people vote for a candidate you personally don't like that smacks far too much of "democracy".
By Chris, at 8:03 p.m.
I dont see what "democracy" has to do with an unrepresentative internet poll skewed by one of the most vitrolic conservative bloggers in Canada.
By KC, at 8:26 p.m.
Maybe the real issue with SDA lies with the fact that there isn't a similiar blog from the progressive side of the sphere willing/able to direct the same sort of traffic.
Just thinking
By WE Speak, at 8:35 p.m.
Go Preston Go!!!
I think bbs is probably correct... the lib-left are ticked because they couldn't muster enough votes to keep their own in the race. Let's hope it's a prelude for the next federal election...
By Richard, at 10:07 p.m.
It's not our fault liblogs doesn't have the same traffic sway as the Blogging Tories.
By Danté, at 11:24 p.m.
"It's not our fault liblogs doesn't have the same traffic sway as the Blogging Tories."
It's never your fault
By kate, at 9:48 a.m.
Bart, have a great bit of time off, man - you deserve it, and I don't know how you keep up here. Have a good break,
JBG
By Jacques Beau Vert, at 10:20 a.m.
Sure, the left doesn't have quite the swing as the right, but I also think we don't care about meaningless internet poll results.
Personally, I'm a left-leaning Liberal and I've voted for Stanfield in previous rounds (and this one again), because I think he probably would be one of the better PMs we've never had.
The purpose of these isn't to say, "hey look a right winger won this poll, so conservatives are great." The purpose is to see who people as a whole think the best man or woman who never quite rose to the top seat would be.
Even if there was a Liberal in the finals, I'd still rather vote on who I think the better guy was, not just whose name was associated with my party.
By UWHabs, at 10:28 a.m.
I voted for Stanfield simply because if he won we might have been able to avoid Trudeau-mania. If only he had caught the football.
By "Expert" Tom, at 10:31 a.m.
"That's like choosing between gonnereah and syphylis."
Don't most Liberals have both?
By Michael Fox, at 10:37 a.m.
"It's never your fault"
Ah, the Liberal way..
By Anonymous, at 10:49 a.m.
"Sure, the left doesn't have quite the swing as the right, but I also think we don't care about meaningless internet poll results."
They doth protest too much.
By kate, at 10:57 a.m.
not related to this at all, but I believe the Green Party of Canada just voted at their policy convention in favour of a resolution calling for up to 2 years in jail for harrassing a woman who is breast feeding. this is too funny to be true.
By kenlister1, at 5:17 p.m.
I spoke to Manning during the 1988 election campaign and asked him what his number 1 priority was. He told me it was senate reform, not "Neanderthal hate spouting" as the media would have had you assume.
By metasyntactic variable, at 4:08 p.m.
I agree with Brian, Manning would have been a good, maybe terrific PM, but "Best Never", nah.
By Jacques Beau Vert, at 4:36 p.m.
Neither one of these guys appears to be pretty enough to win, but then Cretien made it and he is the son of Frankenstein in the looks dept.
However, Preston has an IQ that dwarfs all comers.
Too bad about the voice.
By J West, at 4:56 p.m.
It will be a farce if Presto wins this... He wouldn't deserve to carry Robert Stanfield's briefcase.
By Devin Maxwell, at 1:50 p.m.
Like Devin said. The SDAites have also freeped the Prog Blogs poll function out of existence.
They're engaged in a back-slapping (or insert other metaphor) exercise in SDA's current comments section - interspersed, of course, with spittle-flecked rage at us godless communists for oppressing them by objecting to their lame antics.
By Jason Townsend, at 2:49 p.m.
You guys are babies...
By Michael Fox, at 4:57 p.m.
I try to use my traffic only for good.
By kate, at 5:46 p.m.
I would have voted for Manning, but am somewhat dissapointed by the antics of SDA. By poisoning the poll (its pretty obvious people are voting a large number of times), they have also destroyed its legitimacy - even though Preston Manning had a fair shot at winning.
Indeed, the fact that two right-of-centre politicians are in the finals is testament to the high quality of many right-wing politicians in history (and the fact that Tories usually lose elections).
By french wedding cat, at 6:39 p.m.
"hosertohoosier said...
I would have voted for Manning, but am somewhat dissapointed by the antics of SDA. By poisoning the poll (its pretty obvious people are voting a large number of times), they have also destroyed its legitimacy - even though Preston Manning had a fair shot at winning."
All candidates had an equal chance. What's really disappointing is that the dippers and libs couldn't drum up enough support for their own candidates.
Even more disappointing however is that you folks expected a result in your own (political) favor due to the location of the poll vis-a-vis this blogs readership and now your pouting because it didn't work out for you...
By Richard, at 9:23 p.m.
Zero apologies on your count Kate... Like Stephan says, get out your vote. I guess there is just more Tories who own computers than Grits. Heh.
By Joe Calgary, at 1:46 p.m.
Joe:
You say that there are more Tories that Grits with computers... Stanfield was a Tory! I think its telling that today's Conservatives prefer a Reformer like Manning over, well, the greatest Prime Minister Canada never had. It is further evidence that the merger with the Canadian Alliance wiped out any remaining semblance of progressiveness...
By Devin Maxwell, at 2:14 p.m.
That's some fucking brilliant repartee there Joe.
Syncro
By syncrodox, at 12:14 a.m.
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By wilson, at 11:48 a.m.
My offer to bet you still stands Joe Green, especially since I've done my research on your dead carcass.
But you won't will you Joe Green. Cause your a chicken shit.
It's easy to rise to the occasion Joe Green.
A couple of paypal accounts, a grand, two grand, ten grand, deposit the money, let Chucker be the keeper, and then we will see who has better claim to his citizenship... but you won't, cause your a liar, and a fake, which makes you a chickenshit coward too.
Oh and Joe Green, spare me the "I only bet a million bucks routine". You don't have it. Come to me with a few thousand in your pocket Pussyboy, and I'll cheerfully remove it.
How bout' Joe... take the bet, or do us the favor of taking your lying, cowardly ass away from this blog forever.
Cause I'm saying here and now, you don't have the nuts to put money where your mouth is, and if you don't take my bet your telling us that I'm right, and you really are nothing but a bullshitting coward.
What about it Joe Green, up to the challenge, or would you rather keep blaming your right wing father for all your evils.
Everywhere I see you, I'm throwing this post up, because your a crass jack-off, who contributes nothing to a conversation beyond your Amerikan paranoia, and slighting people on their parentage, or how they parent.
Come on flyboy fluffer... take the bet.
Devin... I voted for Stanfield, I always like an underdog, and he always exemplified that to me. I like Preston too, but I wanted Stansfield to get a win for a change. Dropping a football is a terrible way to lose an election.
By Joe Calgary, at 11:57 a.m.
Thats fine my little pilot fluffer...
We can ask Calgary Grit, a Liberal, to moderate and hold the money if he's agreeable, or Cherniak, a Liberal Lawyer, or any of a dozen other liberals I respect.
And save it, you don't have a million dollars Joe Green, nor is shaming you publicly worth the money if you did. Unlike your collectivism mentality, I don't require that level of vindication. A mere thousand dollars is sufficient, or if your a gambling man, make it $5K. Besides, I wouldn't want to upset your diet of canned catfood.
That a little simpler for you Joe Green?
Seems to me I'm meeting your condition... if your still against the bet, I guess your basically admitting to all and sundry here that you really are a liar and a coward. Is that what your saying Joe Green?
By Joe Calgary, at 4:57 p.m.
You don't have a million dollars loser... you don't even get a pension cheque for the service you never did.
I figure all you've got is $10 bucks worth of time at an internet cafe, and a copy of the bible under your pillow.
By Joe Calgary, at 3:39 p.m.
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