Revirement
Lib 37
PQ 33
ADQ 17
Looks like Andre Boisclair has his work cut out for him.
UPDATE: Well, that was fun while it lasted. Via CROP:
PQ: 35
Lib: 32
posted by calgarygrit at 11:53 a.m.
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21 Comments:
[Mr. Burns]Excellent[/Mr. Burns]
Somehow, I can still see Charest managing to blow this.
By IslandLiberal, at 12:55 p.m.
This is the best news ever. Charest needs to capitalize on this and proceed with the momentum.
Harper desperately needs to help him out and if the fiscal imabalance proposals work out with some environmental initiatves in the fall aimed at Quebec, Charest could really get some steam in his engine....
TAKE THAT crack-baby Boisclair!
By Forward Looking Canadian, at 1:03 p.m.
Fuck John Charest and his Liberal schmoozing with Harper. I'm pulling for Boisclair and go Bloc go federally.
By Omar, at 2:01 p.m.
"By forcing an election, before the Conservative Party has grown and established itself in Quebec, the hold over Quebec of the Bloc Quebecois can only grow into the vacuum. The result will be to stack the deck in favour of separatism."
Hon. Belinda Stronach
Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development and Minister responsible for Democratic Renewal
May 17, 2005
By BL, at 4:19 p.m.
Matthew,
It has nothing to do with a vendetta against Harper. The Bloc and the PQ are both socially progressive. Harper and his Conservatives are not. As I don't believe Quebec separation is likely anytime in the foreseeable future, I will side with the left-leaning political entities in that province.
By Omar, at 5:26 p.m.
I think its great news that Charest has a fighting chance to retain power - but it's still just one poll and there is no election yet. I will always support federalists over seperatists - no matter what the ideology is. Saying other wise ...ahem Omar... is short-sighted little man thinking.
By Unknown, at 6:38 p.m.
Andrew,
Lovely to hear who you'll always support. I am so extremely fortunate to be exposed to your considerations. It is even all the more valuable coming from someone born in...ahem, 1983.
By Omar, at 7:21 p.m.
Well, Mr.Beazley I would suggest to you that I am not as enamoured with this confederation as you obviously are. As far as your ageism quip, I am far more likely to be the victim of that said bigotry than Mr.Smith would be. Besides, the crack about his age was for his condescending "little man thinking" crack. You did read the comments in the thread, did you not?
By Omar, at 7:41 p.m.
Omar - your "little man thinking" has nothing to do with your age, but your shortsighted thought process.
Right now there is not a large chance of seperation, but if there were a seperatist government in power it would immidiately become a greater threat.
As I'm sure you know, considering the 20 extra years of knowledge and wisdom you have on me - public opinion is fluid, it would be foolish to assume otherwise.
By Unknown, at 9:07 p.m.
What's the big problem with being born in 83? I was born in 82... I don't see how someone our age is at a disadvantage.
I also think assanine comments like saying you'll support the PQ and Bloc at all costs shows EXACTLY how much a vendetta people can have. Simply hating Harper for the sake of hating Harper is lame.
By Forward Looking Canadian, at 10:14 p.m.
Yea Riley....but in some quarters it's cooool!!
Syncro
By syncrodox, at 3:16 a.m.
CG, I noticed the nice new look for this blog site. It is certainly a positive note and a good asset for Liberal interests.
Tolerance is an asset as well. I posted an interesting, but off topic comment under the Draft Orchard post and thankfully did not raise a big protest.
The note I left about a treed property in Courtenay is a real find for someone in property search mode.
The tolerance allowed for the odd off topic comment is a refreshing quality of this Calgary Grit blogsite. TG
By TonyGuitar, at 11:42 a.m.
Andrew Smith and Omar, no matter who I side with, it is interesting to follow and muse over your debate.
Good to see that someone so young has reasoned debate to offer.
Good to see personal attack held to a minimum.
Seems that one who resorts to personal degrading comment is the one admitting defeat.
Not a bad rule to live by. eh?
TG
By TonyGuitar, at 12:05 p.m.
CG,
Don't be discouraged. The CROP poll still appears to show a decline in sovereignty support.
We need to POUNCE on these figures and continue to push them our way. We need a SEA of optimism as federalist forces go forward. These polls give federalists MOMENTUM. So let's not jump the gun and say things like "that was fun while it lasted" cause it's just beginning!!
By Forward Looking Canadian, at 12:47 p.m.
Oh yeah, the trends in the CROP poll are still positive and the numbers are tightening.
Although, with Quebec's electoral map the way it is, Charest needs a good lead to actually win more seats.
By calgarygrit, at 1:07 p.m.
Remember though CG, if things get close, the ADQ will likely be able to form a coalition with the Liberals if necessary.
Charest just needs to stay close to the PQ to get a minority.
By Eric, at 5:35 p.m.
exactly right on the coalition government thingy.
CG, I'd add two other things:
1) traditionally, poll support for PLQ in Quebec under-represents there election day support. turnout issues make this so.
2) either poll puts the PQ in crisis mode. 30% is about the bottom of their support. Boisclair started with 50% support. If they ain't in a panic, its because they've taken that one pill that makes them small and are looking to ask Alice a few questions.
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