Tuesday, January 10, 2006

En Francais

A lot gets lost in translation, so I don't want to declare a winner or try and imagine what francophones watching this debate thought. For what it's worth, I don't think Duceppe was as strong as he's been in debates past. Layton was better tonight than last night and landed a very good shot against Martin in the notwithstanding clause nonsense. Both Martin and Harper were hit and miss. Harper looked dumb with his "I wasn't expecting to answer" line while Paul turned his back on Gilles and looked bad when he mixed up Layton and Harper. But, despite that, I think both of them got their core message out.

That said, the debate was dull, so the story won't be about what they said. The story will be about Harper being a "player" in the debate and Duceppe attacking him. Harper's surge in Quebec will help him coast to coast - as has been the case with everything this election, Harper has benefited from perfect timing.

As for the debate itself:

5:56 pm: I'm listening to the new Liberal ads to get me pumped up for the debate. Say what you want about the content but the tribal drums in the background have got a great beat.

6:05 pm: Oh man, did Harper ever get a bad translator. Holy nasal batman! "Guys...I give me back my retainer! Guys..."

6:06 pm: Martin opens up with "I supported Meech Lake". Oh good grief.

6:11 pm: Paul tells us to "stop the mudslinging". I think we really need some soldiers...on the streets...in Canada, to stop the mudslinging.

6:17 pm: Duceppe is really going after Harper. I think we know who he feels his real threat is.

6:19 pm: I think Martin may have accused Layton of being anti-abortion...or he may have proposed a constitutional amendment to allow abortion...it's very difficult to tell with Paul sometimes... (UPDATE: Paul Wells explains the bizarre Martin/Layton abortion exchange in the comments section)

6:29 pm: "The NDP is about people, about producing results. Results for people. We don't play politics. The NDP is a deity upon itself, every action selfless."

6:33 pm: Jack says we need MPs who work for "you", not for their party. His halo is getting brighter and brighter.

6:40 pm: Harper says "I'm sorry, I wasn't expecting to have to have to answer". Well geez, you're not watching a movie Stephen - it's a D-E-B-A-T-E.

6:46 pm: This is a bit off topic, but does Harper's hair ever grow? Or does he get daily haircuts? Inquiring minds want to know.

6:51 pm: Woah boy, assisted suicide. Paul's response: "I'll give you a personal answer; Many people have assisted in my political suicide - Scott Reid, Mike Klander, David Herle..."

7:02 pm: I can't tell who's winning this debate, but Martin and Duceppe hit the jackpot on the translators. Jack's sounds like he's a Philosophy professor at Oxford, while Harper's must get beat up by the chess club routinely.
I've also got to say, Paiken asked better questions last night.

7:13 pm: Damn those corporate CEOs and millionaires cruising around the streets of Quebec City in their minivans!

7:14 pm: Lost in translation: "Poverty and Crime end with the same letter but are two different things".

7:31 pm: Things are getting dull. Time for Paul to drop some more policy on the fly here: "Abolish the Senate! Annex the Turks and Caicos!"

7:41 pm: Finally! We get the notwithstanding question! Paul has believed in this for "a long time" apparently. Well, they do say "a week is a long time in politics".

7:48 pm: Put on your 3-D glasses now, and see Paul's hands jet out of the TV towards you.

7:52 pm: A side camera shows Paul wandering around aimlessly five feet from his podium. I don't blame him; I feel like going for a walk too - this has been pretty boring.

7:57 pm: Jack accuses Harper of offering "simplistic solutions to complex problems". Unlike the highly complex "elect more NDP MPs" solution.

8:06 pm: The new Gregg poll: 38-28-16-12.

8:20 pm: Harper didn't have a great debate, but he sure looked good in the media scrum afterwards. He goes after Martin hard on the "military commercial" and all the questions to all the leaders are about how "Harper is now a player in Quebec".

8:23 pm: Wow. Duffy smacks down Duffy.

8:36 pm: I think Paul did fairly well in the debate, but John Duffy is getting absolutely destroyed in the spin room. The Liberals have got to hope people aren't watching this because it's embarrassing.

UPDATE: You can watch Duffy versus Duffy here.


  • First question for Martin after the debate is on the military ads... 50/50 odds?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:01 p.m.  

  • If you thought Duceppe sounded weird last night, wait until you hear Harper tonight. And Layton. And Martin.

    Their French is really bad.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:03 p.m.  

  • either that or why he didn't mention amending (unilaterally) the Charter tonight...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:04 p.m.  

  • If I were liberal I would be ashamed of these ads. I am a Canadian and I AM ashamed of the government.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:04 p.m.  

  • Harper is saying a lot. His translator, not so much. Am I missing something? To those who can speak French, enlighten please.

    By Blogger mezba, at 8:17 p.m.  

  • mezba:

    learn ze language.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:19 p.m.  

  • Why doesn't Charest put forward a motion in the "national" assembly for proportional representation and stop these goddamn sovereigntists in their tracks. Calgary Grit, I call on you to post about this issue, cause with one piece of legislation, Charest can get rid of this separatist threat once and for all

    Randall Watson

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:22 p.m.  

  • Anon at 6:19, to quote Enid Blyton, unfortunately my French is limited to 'my aunt's pen is on my uncle's desk'.

    They speak too fast for me to follow.

    Is there no BQ scandals and corruptions that all the federal parties can dig out?

    By Blogger mezba, at 8:23 p.m.  

  • Layton is saying BQ is useless. Finally, something I wanted to hear for a long time. The BQ sits in opposition and complains forever, and ever since BQ came up nothing good has come for Quebec thru them, rather, property prices went down in Montreal and other cities once the threat of separatism became real.

    Martin has a good point when he says just now the BQ voted against many measures he says he supports.

    By Blogger mezba, at 8:27 p.m.  

  • That martin-layton slag was because Martin wanted to go after Harper but he said ``Layton`` by mistake. Then Layton got to rebut. I`m not sure Harper ever knew what was going on, but Martin`s expression when he figured it out was choice.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:29 p.m.  

  • Yeah CG, that was a "dumbass" moment for Harper. I came straight here knowing you'd nail it right away. Wake' Wake' Stephan.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:42 p.m.  

  • haaha - Harper: uh, uh...sorry, wasn't ready to answer...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:42 p.m.  

  • I think Martin believes those "Red Bull" ad's, and sucks 10 back before a debate hoping he'll levitate as he waves his arms.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:45 p.m.  

  • Martin attacking Layton on abortion? WHAT IS GOING ON?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 p.m.  

  • First Stephan had nothing to say, then too much. Ha ha... oh well, he's not gaffing and that's all I give a shit about. (knock on wood)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 p.m.  

  • "we have to work... Ungh.... hold on I've got so much passion, I need to finish crapping my pants" says Martin with a grunt.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:49 p.m.  

  • I now understand why the US invasion came to Garneauy's mind as a comparison with the ill-informed separatist polemists.

    Duceppe is going after Option Canada in the same manner as the US went after weapons of mass destruction. All emotion - no rationale - you're with the Bloc or with the enemy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:54 p.m.  

  • Paul's assisted political suicide was definitely a team effort, you left off the wheel boy from Regina though

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:54 p.m.  

  • Stephan, you were an egghead in School too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:56 p.m.  

  • BQ is against criminal records for pot smokers. PQ leader's input?

    Harper 'Liberal proposal is liberal' well duh?

    By Blogger mezba, at 8:57 p.m.  

  • Martin "we want to get those grow-ops behind bars... so we can get them growing weed for us"

    Oh yeah Gille... get PJ on the copper deficit

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:59 p.m.  

  • I think Duceppe just said a problem is a problem that creates problems?? I need to clean up my french.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:07 p.m.  

  • Martin snuck another redbull while the camera was off him.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:08 p.m.  

  • To Mr harper: A third of Canadians don't pay income taxes? Is that what you said? One in Canadians don't pay income taxes, they live below the minimum taxable line?

    By Blogger mezba, at 9:13 p.m.  

  • Andrew Coyne is having a heartattack over GST Liberal version.

    Man are you right about the translator for Harper... Must be a Liberal holding his nose.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:14 p.m.  

  • Watch out Alberta, their talking another NEP!

    By Blogger Rositta, at 9:17 p.m.  

  • I can only conclude that Jack Layton never wants to see an Albertan as an NDP MP. Nationalize Oil Industry! Dude, now all Albertans hate you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:19 p.m.  

  • Their French is actually very good, by real-world standards. Remember Preston Manning, Kim Campbell, Audrey McLaughlin, Joe Clark, John Turner? These guys are the Comédie Francaise in comparison...but still a slog to listen to.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:29 p.m.  

  • Not really... it's not horrible, and it's better than Stephans, but Layton and Duceppe's are better.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:33 p.m.  

  • Martin's French is good? Huh?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:34 p.m.  

  • Well... I've heard enough for another night... fun stuff. Wish my French were better, I'm sure I missed a lot. Fiscal Imbalance, Fiscal Imbalance... Yawn.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:47 p.m.  

  • Did Martin say that he wants to get rid of the notwithstanding clause (on the federal level) in order to protect a woman's right to choose???????? He's lost it.

    By Blogger Paulineee, at 9:52 p.m.  

  • "To Mr harper: A third of Canadians don't pay income taxes? Is that what you said? One in Canadians don't pay income taxes, they live below the minimum taxable line?"

    Possible if you consider most seniors, most children aged 0-18 and all stay at home moms and dads don't pay income tax... I assume aboriginals also do not pay tax although I could be wrong... I am sure there are more...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:58 p.m.  

  • Oh this criticism of Martin`s French (and the other leaders) is soooo tiresome. Can you name five anglophone parliamentarians in the last half-century who spoke better French? I named five other leaders from history whose French was far, far, far, far worse. YOu didn`t address that.

    We get it. You`re francophone. He`s not. He gets his verb agreements wrong, which makes him as embarrassing as Guy Chevrette. So?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:58 p.m.  

  • CG why not post about the hot moderator, you rip her for not being as good as Skreetch from last night, but she was HOT

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:00 p.m.  


    John Duffy is getting his ASS hnded to him by Mike Duffy.

    Mike Duffy asks John Duffy about the ad. John starts off trying to go back to the debate, Mike gives him a few seconds but tells him THIS IS A DUTY FOR JOURNALISTS TO ASK HIM ABOUT THIS. HE TELLS THE PUBLIC THAT JOHN DUFFY IS TRYING TO INTIMIDATE HIM WHEN THEY WERE OFF AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:23 p.m.  

  • Whoooooooooooooaaaa! Who just saw Duffy (Mike) tear a strip off Duffy (John) over the military ad? Quick cut to Duceppe with a red faced Duffy (John) on the split screen.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:23 p.m.  

  • Ouch. I wonder how John Duffy enjoyd Mike Duffy "tearing him a new one."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:24 p.m.  

  • Puffy just ripped JD a new arsehole. Unbefreakinleivable!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:25 p.m.  

  • I was going away, but I just watched Mike Duffy tear a new asshole in Liberal flunky John Duffy on live TV for trying to intimidate the press regarding the Lib Ad on Military in the Cities, and Mike Duffy literally took John Duffy's head off. He accused John Duffy of attempting to silence him while they broke away for Harpers scrum

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:26 p.m.  


    The Johnny got his ass burned.

    Thats 2, count em, 2 gaffes this election for him, he leads Scott Reid now, eh?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:27 p.m.  

  • Liberals post a stupid ad.

    They deny, deny, deny that it's an ad.

    Next, they try to kill the messenger (Puffy) by intimidating them off the air.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:29 p.m.  



    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:30 p.m.  

  • Holy Crap!

    News headlines tomorrow -- Attempts to Intimidate Journalists during debate!

    You can't make this stuff up.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:30 p.m.  

  • Someone has to get a clip of the Duffy vs Duffy exchange. That was fanastic theatre. Anyone have Tivo?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:31 p.m.  

  • Someone has to grab that video and post it somewhere. I want that into a CPC ad. THIS CRAP IS UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:31 p.m.  

  • John Duffy IS SPEWING CRAP.

    It's not an ad? He won't APOLOGIZE!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:33 p.m.  


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:34 p.m.  

  • That was the best live excahnge in the history of CTV Newsnet.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:34 p.m.  


    John Duffy looks like a reject in the first place, but that disengenious smile doesn't help his cause.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:38 p.m.  

  • If the responses here are any indication, it's too late CG, everyone is watching CTV.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:43 p.m.  

  • Check out the new Conservative Ad on Borque. Its a beaut about Martin.

    Can we trust him? Great but not as good as Duffy1 HA

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:43 p.m.  

  • Tonight on WWE SMACKDOWN !!!


    F'n AWESOME !!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:44 p.m.  

  • Whoever suggest Charest table proportional rep in Quebec should be more informed of the facts.

    First of all his minister of interngovernmental affairs, Benoit Pelletier, already has the legislation in the works. It is due for the 2011 election in Quebec.

    Secondly, no party in Quebec ever wins more than 50% of the vote in provincial elections. Therefore, the legislation has to be crafted so that Quebec does not find itself in a position of perpetual minority governments.

    So it sounds easy, but it's a bit more complicated once you dig a little deeper.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:47 p.m.  

  • The irony is that the exchange occurred when J Duffy was trying to "change the channel".

    Instead he turned up the volume.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:59 p.m.  

  • I think the Conservatives have dodged a huge bullet on these Liberal ads. Though I think they are for the most part appalling, some of them had the potential to really sting - but this (entirely deserved) backlash against the military ad is going to sink them all. They may even have to pull the whole lot of them, but regardless, the damage has been done to the Liberal brand. Without a bow left in the quiver, I think it's all she wrote for the Grits.

    Funny that Duffy's trying to claim these aren't real ads, because they were never released, merely posted on the party's website. Last week, the Grits - or their internet acolytes, to be fair - were claiming that the Conservatives were hiding an ad on national television, but were not owning up to it by virtue of the fact that it was momentarily not on their website. Oh, what fun. In a way, I'm going to miss these guys when they're gone.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:00 p.m.  

  • I was concerned about the Liberal attack ads that are being run. Now I'm of the impression the "story" is the ad that's been yanked essentially accusing Conservatives of orgnaizing a political coup d'etat. I mean..its one thing to say your opponents are spending irresponsiblely, or don't have the proper priorities..but are attempting to use the military to seize power and institute martial law?

    This is the sort of spurious allegation that is so patently false and beyond the pale that it completely undermines the credibility of the party associated with it. This is ameuteurish and conspiracy theorist in its implications, and admittedly its stupidity right up there with "Paul Martin supports Child Pornography". It would appear the "professional" Liberal war room has descended into ameteur hour, I mean how do you not screen out releasing the "our opponents are fascists" ad?

    This isn't simply insulting to Conservatives, this is tremendously insulting to every person serving in the military, implying their willing to turn their weapons on their friends and families.

    By Blogger Chris, at 11:00 p.m.  

  • http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/audio/ProudToBeCanadian.ca_CTVs_Mike%20Duffy_Stands_up.wmv


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:01 p.m.  

  • Wow, did Duffer ever tear a strip off John Duffy. Said he had threatened Tiny Mike during the preceeding commercial break if FM didn't stop taliking about the withdrawn Liberal ad.

    Afterwards, FM revealed a TVA (I think) instant poll result:
    -Duceppe in the 50's if I remember
    -Harper 20
    - Layton 10.

    Also the latest Gregg poll was CPC=38, LPC=28.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:02 p.m.  

  • Health Minister says Paul Martin personally approved this ad...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:04 p.m.  




    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:13 p.m.  

  • I just heard the pathetic "Michael"... HAHAHH PRICELESS, this dork makes Scott Reid look like a GENIUS!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:19 p.m.  

  • The link is getting cut up possibly. Piece the next 3 lines together into 1 link.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:19 p.m.  

  • By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:24 p.m.  

  • here is the link to Puffy vs Duffy on CTV:


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:25 p.m.  

  • Permission on the file is wrong anonymous

    chmod u+r ;)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:28 p.m.  

  • Too many people are trying to download it!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:29 p.m.  


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:30 p.m.  

  • By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:45 p.m.  

  • Martin Luther King, Jr.:

    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"

    The Liberal Party and Liberal voters should learn from Martin Luther King.

    By Blogger Fighting for Democracy, at 11:46 p.m.  

  • By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:56 p.m.  

  • The Liberal ads will work if the Conservatives do not refute them. Playing the high moral ground and hoping that people will not be influenced by them is assinine.

    The number of ads is also a great idea. If the first 11, I mean 10 now, ads do not work, the 11th may. Brilliant move by Martin war room.

    I nevertheless find it disgusting that a sitting Canadian prime minister (a Liberal) would go so low as to allow some of these ads to be aired.

    Fortunataly, Jack Layton saved Harper's skin tonight. He revealed the real threat of the nonwithstanding clause issue. If the courts really had as much power as Martin wants to give them, they could in the future criminilize abortion, and decriminalize pedophilia. And all it would take is a 5-4 decision. I pray this becomes the issue that ends the Paul Martin era. This should be the story tomorrow. Not Duffy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:17 a.m.  

  • Joan,

    The legislature could always pass a law legalizing abortion et al. if courts ruled otherwise. You don't need a S-33 to put a check on courts.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:35 a.m.  

  • Michael,

    The legislature would not be able to do that without changing the charter. Or first voting again and giving themselves a notwithstanding clause.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:48 a.m.  

  • Thought my Canadian friends in the west might be interested in this tidbit. I went to an all candidates meeting in my riding (St. Pauls, Toronto) tonight to hear the candidates. This riding is represented by Carolyn Bennett, Minister of State. I thought you might like to know that at one point, when talking about policy for cities Carolyn Bennett trashed the Conservative party by stating that they couldn't relate to cities as they were "rural, conservatives from THE WEST!" with a disgusted look and emphasis on her face as she pronounced WEST. Several people in the auditorium actually booed at this point and I saw six people walk out in disgust. Yeah, she might be another Liberal MP from Toronto but she is in the federal cabinet and as such represents represents the entire country and should not be trashing anyone west of the Ontario border.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:58 a.m.  

  • Given the way this campaign has been going, when will Martin start broadcasting Liberal attack ads against the RCMP?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:26 a.m.  

  • Canadian Forces site:

    "The place of Militia units in their local communities must not be discounted as an anachronism or 'surplus' force structure. As the Regular Army becomes more concentrated in fewer bases distant from Canada's population base, the often-touted "footprint in the community" role of the Reserves must be maintained as no less than a core activity of the CF. Indeed, community based presence of the military is more important now than at any time since the Second World War. Decisions made affecting that presence must not compromise the balance between short-term operational requirements and the longer-term public policy interests."


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:44 a.m.  

  • "Through the work of the CF at home and abroad, Defence has become an important part of Canada’s history, heritage and identity. With a presence in every province and territory, and in most major communities, and through our participation in deployments abroad, Defence is one of Canada’s most visible national institutions"


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:53 a.m.  

  • Joan,

    Does the US judicial system have a S-33? No. Yet they have checks and balances....PET always thought S-33 was a flaw, b/c politicians COULD subvert the rule of law b/c of political expediency. You seem to be buying the claptrap of activist judges.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:56 a.m.  

  • Mole leaks the Liberal red book to the Western Standard:


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:04 a.m.  




    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:21 a.m.  

  • Michael,

    The check in the U.S. system is a Senate that can overturn a president's appointment to the high court. There is no such check on the PMO.

    The New Red Book is impressive (except for the graph "CANADA'S FERTILITY IS IN A LONG-RUN DECLINE". Conservative clowns who were dreaming of a majority can forget even a minority if this document gets in the hands of all undecided/swing voters and the attack ads keep on getting run. The question is, do they have the resources to get this document on every doorstep? I hope not.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:31 a.m.  

  • Holy Crap! The entire Liberal 2006 election platform has been leaked... Seems like "Paul Martin's Liberals" have more of a problem than just the dismal, tired performance of Martin at tonight's debate.

    Western Standard has a copy posted on their blog:


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:00 a.m.  

  • Good god. 87 comments, and about 53 of them are from Anonymous (and I'm guessing that they're all the same Anonymous, with the caps lock key broken and set to "on") blowing a gasket over Duffy vs Duffy.

    Dude: Relax.

    By Blogger Dale, at 3:08 a.m.  

  • Dale: It's called flashback.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:32 a.m.  

  • This series of neg ads and Mike Duffy's bitchslapping of John Duffy has been dubbed "Adsplat" over at SDA.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:47 a.m.  

  • Actually I like the name of another commenter:

    "Adscam....no not that adscam....the other one"

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:41 a.m.  

  • CG, for a smart guy, I'm surprised that you didn't pick up on why Harper wasn't prepared to speak at the 6:40 mark: he had already spoken. He went first on the subject, and after Layton it was actually Duceppe's turn to have a crack the question.

    By Blogger RGM, at 8:43 a.m.  

  • I like "Ad-scram".

    Also, haven't seen it referenced but I think Jan 10 marks the first appearance of abortion in the campaign for your "off beat" election pool.

    Woo hoo, I picked Jan 5!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:10 p.m.  

  • Seeing Mike Duffy kick the living shit out of that quintessential arrogant Liberal prick John Duffy will surely be the media highlight for all of 2006 - and we're only on day 11 so far!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:23 p.m.  

  • An awful lot of bloggers seem to have come awake only when a media reader got out of line. Is that stuff about the army the high point, is it reasonable to reach long term conclusions based on that , is the guy Duffy running for office, who says a Liberal candidate cannot make a statement on behalf of the party-did anyone dispute that?
    Two items bother me: 1. the fact is the Liberals have kept the country out of financial trouble as a government for more than 12 years and Martiln can surely take a lot of credit for that. 2. anyone can use as a guide to the question: will they do what they say the Liberal record. Most of what they say already exists as a policy (so they are just throwing more money at it), and though they surely will not do all (as on environment most of it is likely. But there is no such measure for the Conservatives. The last Conservative government was a continujing financial disaster. The new leader can claim the mantle of Mulroney or not but he cannot have it both ways. Beyond that some clues are his admitted mentor, Edmund Burke. That can be excused in a first year college student, but not in a grown up. Most of the concepts that Burke fulminated against are part of the stock of very-good-things in modern times, and even in his own time he was flayed alive by Thomas Paine. His other influence has been a us resident theorizer who argued that you can work your way into power by a bunch of little lies, then you can put the blocks to the population. He does'nt talk much about these influences today (someone probably told him that suitable conversation in reactionary settings does not go down well in a democratic melting pot) which leaves the slate empty.
    We do not know what he believes,only he seems to be ready to juk what he used to believe in every 2 to 3 hyears.Oh, he is a flexible fellow, is he not. If you really want to stand up for Canada maybe you should step on his 46 page program, if only for vaulting arrogance.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:17 a.m.  

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