Friday, January 13, 2006


Back in 2003 when everyone was walking around the Air Canada Centre in Toronto predicting Paul Martin's juggernaut would win 200 seats, I never realized that they were talking about his two election combined total.


  • LOL

    A majority still seems out of reach.

    Any chance we can go best 2 out of 3 against Bucky?


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:59 p.m.  

  • Good line. Brought mirth to my eyes. keep up the good work. Stephen H.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:01 p.m.  

  • I'm with Jason Cherniak. Accusing Harper of being a militarist dictator and supporting child labour are the last legs of a Liberal majority.

    David Herle is brilliant. He's a national treasure. He should be bronzed. Alive.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:25 p.m.  

  • The newest gem in the Liberal election pltform has been announced - their Harem Rights:

    Perhaps we could all think up some more planks for them? Enjoy, Erik

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:59 p.m.  

  • As President of the Young Liberals of Canada I must demand that you all accept the fact that this is all part of the Martin plan.

    The man works in mysterious ways and I have FAITH that everything will work out on te 23rd.

    If not I will join my fellow Martinites in a ritual mass sucicide on the Martin farm.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:01 p.m.  

  • May I suggest you pay some attention to the Conservative total fuck up today, where they did not know how to add up their own numbers? Holy christ. Amateur hour.

    There could be a good 'correction' in the poll numbers if the Liberals can play this statesmanly rather than desperate cackling hounds. It all depends on how Goodale and Martin sound this afternoon.

    Of course, I expect Martin to be a total failure in this regard. As for Goodale, he looks and acts and sounds *exactly* like Kryten from Red Dwarf, so no doubt he won't be able to pull it off.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:09 p.m.  

  • right. martin and goodale can add better than the conference board.

    hand out the cocktail napkins. they're going to need them.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:38 p.m.  

  • Anon, the Conference Board didn't add the numbers up, which is the problem. They did it on the back of a napkin in the lock up. Watch Bob Fife on CTV talk about it (go to the election videos to see).

    The Board vs. Conference Board isn't really very meaningful to me.

    (I personally think Solberg would be a terrible finance minister. He's too impetuous and undisciplined.)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:47 p.m.  

  • Great, now I've gotta clean the coffee off my monitor.

    By Blogger Jason Hickman, at 2:59 p.m.  

  • The Conference Board added it up, having had the full platform in secret for some time - releasing its endorsement just after xmas. They just weren't (obviously) given the job of presenting it in the lock up. That's the job of Solberg's staffers, who apparently were, um, not sharp today.

    By Blogger matt, at 3:07 p.m.  

  • anonymous -- you had me worried for a second there that the Tories actually had a mistake in their math somewhere. But it is just Ralph Goodale saying the numbers don't add up, in part, because the revenue side is wrong. And we all know how good Ralph is at projecting revenue.

    Don't stay up too late tonight waiting for that 'correction'

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:23 p.m.  

  • Goodale calls Conservative plan "hocus-pocus make believe"

    Now repeat that in your best Mr. Rogers voice....

    Reeeaaaal intellegent Ralphie!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:36 p.m.  

  • There you go. Goodale being a tard.

    Staffers vs. ministers is not a distinction that is meaningfully made. Solberg is responsible for his staffers. If he isn't in control of them, he's incompetent.

    See the response to the Income Trust scandal. Solberg needs to get his act together before he takes office next month.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:40 p.m.  

  • Isn't the VP of the Conference Board of Canada a known Conservative Party supporter? Or at least that's something I've heard before.

    I'm saying he'd only support their platform based on that but it might be something to keep in mind.

    By Blogger Bailey, at 3:40 p.m.  

  • Is this the same Goodale of the Income Trust RCMP Investigation Scandale?

    And now we should believe what he has to say about his enemy during the dying days of an election where his party is falling apart?

    Here? In Canada?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:46 p.m.  

  • Oh dear...

    Ralphie Goodale

    Fudging His Budgets

    In His Office

    In Ottawa

    While His Buddies Cash In

    And Pensioners Lose Their Nest Eggs

    In Our Towns

    In Canada

    We're Not Making This Up!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:07 p.m.  

  • While I think he would be an excellent Finance Minister, there isn't any chance Solberg will get that portfolio. The optics of having the two most powerful positions in Cabinet go to Albertans simply militate against it. If the Conservatives (must! guard! against! hubris!) win, it will be a tough call for Harper. It's a hugely difficult portfolio to give to a first-term MP, but nobody currently in caucus (Solberg aside) is as qualified as a couple of former Ontario cabinet ministers, Jim Flaherty and Tony Clement. While he is certainly a polarizing figure to some, Flaherty has immense political talent. I wouldn't be surprised to see him delivering a budget in April.

    By Blogger DM, at 4:14 p.m.  

  • Damn Liberals have to copy everything the Tories do... first the Conservatives kick out a candidate and now the Liberals copy them a day later.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:21 p.m.  

  • I'm proud to say that while Liberals and critics everywhere were proclaiming Paul Martin the Second Coming of Christ, I was calling him John Turner II.

    I was right. :D

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:01 p.m.  

  • funnay!

    By Blogger RP., at 6:38 p.m.  

  • I still recall when Paul spoke to the Youth, and he said "I am confident that we will be able to win a 4th consecutive majority government" I swear to God I thought for a second...hmm...that may not happen. Then the Sponsorship scandal came as a gift from Chretien and all hell broke loose. It was brutal...sad that such a great man had it that way, but in his own words..."you play with the cards that you've been dealt" I think that's a quote for every human being to use life. That's one benefit in playing poker but you can't always bluff everyone...and that goes for the conservatives...and lIberals....the Bloc no they've been masters at Lawrence Martin's G&B article yesterday.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:28 p.m.  

  • Great line Bart--except that tongue-in-cheek prediction (200 gLib seats total for both elections: 2004 & 2006)was overly optimistic...PM's gonna fall short of even that ignominious objective!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:22 p.m.  

  • nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk.

    We remember back in 2003 when we were on CFCN in Calgary predicting that the Liberals under Paul Martin could win 4-5 seats in Alberta...

    By Blogger daveberta, at 11:52 p.m.  

  • Bailey said "Isn't the VP of the Conference Board of Canada a known Conservative Party supporter? Or at least that's something I've heard before."

    There's a wonderful new invention. It's called the Internet. There you can fact check all kinds of things you've heard. Before you intimate that non-partisan people are doing things for partisan reasons.

    Glen Hodgson is the Vice-President and Chief Economist of the Conference Board of Canada. He almost undoubtedly would have been the one to sign off on the Board's analysis of the Tory platform - an analysis they offered to do for the Liberals as well, but for some reason, the Liberals declined.

    For the years 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 (the last year information is publicly available), Glen Hodgson was not a contributor to any political party in Canada.

    "That's something I heard before". Sheesh!

    By Blogger Patrick, at 11:53 p.m.  

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