Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Rise Up Liberal Resurrection Rally, Featuring JC

You can watch online here.

As much of a Chretien fan as I am, game 7 won out tonight, so I'll be watching from home. But I'll try to live blog the highlights during commercials.

8:01 pm: Someone from the crowd chants "3 more years" as Ken Dryden takes the stage. Which, I guess, is a somewhat realistic chant in this era of minority governments. Dryden opens up with "nationally, we need help". Hard to argue with that.

8:10 pm: Dryden finishes an emotional and energetic plea to vote Liberal. Jean Chretien is introduced to a song I'm sure he's never heard before.

8:13 pm: Chretien - "In the 70s, the Canadiens needed Ken Dryden. Today, Canada needs Ken Dryden". With the Habs down 2-1, maybe they could use Ken Dryden too...

8:28 pm: Showtime. Chretien knifes the NDP briefly on national unity - "Now they are confused about the Clarity of the Act". I would have liked to see him develop on that a bit more. If there's anyone who can speak about the dangers of opening up the constitution and pandering to separatists, it's Chretien.

I think Coyne sums the speech up nicely on Twitter - "What Chretien and Layton are reminding us of in this election are the strengths of "career politicians" who know how to work a room and look like they're enjoying it". Honestly, Chretien's speech was far less substantive than anything Ignatieff has said this campaign - a bit of nostalgia and a few vague jabs at the Tories. But he was attacking with a smile on is face, and the crowd ate it up.

8:49 pm: Ignatieff does a good job outlining the Liberal platform, and does it with some fire.

He mentions how important it is to "help Matthew" 7 times. I assume this is Madame Paillé's son.

8:58 pm: Here we go - "Rise up! Feel the anger! Feel the heat! RISE UP!"

On the whole, a strong effort by Ignatieff. He sounded strong and forceful and laid out the case to vote Liberal. That's not of the utmost importance, since it will be Chretien who makes the newscasts, but at the very least this should energize the party's GTA base for the final weekend push.


  • I hope post election we see an NDP minority government with an accord with the Liberals, which will require the combine Liberal NDP total to be a majority.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:49 p.m.  

  • Chretien -- career politician and possibly one of the best in the business. Humour is his weapon.

    The part about jets without engines and prisons without prisoners was good....

    By Blogger sharonapple88, at 8:51 p.m.  

  • Illyich Layton and his Bolshevik horde ready to rape and pillage. run for your lives.

    By Blogger mauser98, at 8:52 p.m.  

  • Interesting how Chretien omitted his promise to abolish the GST, and Free Trade....that is how he got elected.

    It was a Tory government that did what Liberals tried and failed to do. Replace the export killing manufacturing sales tax with the GST.

    Funny how Chretien takes credit for the economic revenue the GST and FTA brought in.

    By Blogger Rotterdam, at 9:04 p.m.  

  • Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it is true. The Liberals never promised to abolish Free Trade. As for the GST, the Red Book was clear that they wanted to abolish it but it was also clear in the Red Book that it was to be replaced by a harmonized sales tax. Chretien, however, neglected to mention that second part in answer to a question at a CBC town hall meeting. So saying they promised to abolish the GST is fair enough, because Chretien goofed. But Liberals never promised to abolish Free Trade. Unless of course the Conservatives have forged some U.S. documents regarding this - they just recently did this to Ignatieff. Lies, lies and more lies from the CONservatives.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:24 p.m.  

  • The GST was to be replaced by an equivalent tax... obviously didn't happen.

    As for free trade, that didn't start benefiting people until interest rates dropped, thereby dropping the Canadian dollar to the US currency. Interest rates were high under Mulroney so as to keep inflation low. At one point, we acheived practically 0% inflation.

    By Blogger sharonapple88, at 9:24 p.m.  

  • Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it is true.

    Example -- Obama wasn't born in America. Birth certificate... a birth annoucement in the local paper... People still insist he was born in Kenya.

    By Blogger sharonapple88, at 9:29 p.m.  

  • How did he get his other two majorities?

    By Blogger Gayle, at 9:38 p.m.  

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    By Blogger sharonapple88, at 9:55 p.m.  

  • Vote splitting, but if they wanted to, they could have given him a minority government.

    Kady O'Malley's headline for her tweets on the gathering is a hoot: Release the (Kraken) Chretien.

    By Blogger sharonapple88, at 9:55 p.m.  

  • "Example -- Obama wasn't born in America."

    I think that is a misnomer - people agree to the statement that Obama wasn't born in America to signal their disgust for the man, not because they genuinely believe it.

    Recently they ran a similar poll on Trump, and found a sizeable percentage of Americans were not absolutely certain whether or not Trump was born in America.

    I call it "my ex-lover or boss is a sociopath" syndrome. When you hate somebody, you tend to ascribe all sorts of labels to them.

    By Anonymous hosertohoosier, at 11:12 p.m.  

  • Any chance Chretien comes back to lead the party? Has there ever been a leader recent history that has come back after several years of sabbatical to lead a party? (not just in canada but in the world)

    If the the results on May 2 are as disastrous as the polls indicate the pitchforks will be sharpened and out & Iggy and his advisers are going to be burnt on the stake. There is a chance that both Trudeau and Kennedy the apparent frontrunners for Liberal leadership might end up losing their seats in which case there will a huge vacuum that someone like Chretien can fill.

    By Anonymous WinnipegGrit, at 12:07 a.m.  

  • Yesterday. Mr Ignatieff launched a campaign advertisement that criticized 'career politicians'. Today he pulls one out of the closet to stump for him.

    Please explain your position, Mr Ignatieff.

    I think this is but one example of why you have failed to gain traction with the public. You have been both for and against so many policies that the public does not perceive you as a legitimate alternative.

    By Blogger Eric, at 12:18 a.m.  

  • I am going to rise up and vote NDP

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:30 a.m.  

  • Winnipeg - Chretien always joked about a British politician who did a comeback like that, but I suspect at 77, that's not really in the cards.

    And besides, we all KNOW Frank McKenna will be the next Liberal leader, right?

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 12:32 a.m.  

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    By Blogger Eric, at 1:05 a.m.  

  • H2H: I think that is a misnomer - people agree to the statement that Obama wasn't born in America to signal their disgust for the man, not because they genuinely believe it.

    Thank you. This is something I've been saying for a long time. It's really quite obvious when you think about it, but never seems to come up when there's coverage of birther polling.

    By Anonymous The Invisible Hand, at 1:06 a.m.  

  • Mr Dryden was a leadership candidate in 06. What does it say that the current leader needs to show up in this riding WITH the favoured father days before the election? Batten down the hatches and save the furniture. Things must be as bad or worse than they appear. The leadership team should be out in stretch or a swing riding at this point in a campaign, not shoring up the STRONG incumbents.

    I was also going to make a joke about the Habs game 7 and Dryden wishing he was watching it, but I couldn't pull it together.

    By Blogger Eric, at 1:07 a.m.  

  • "Has there ever been a leader recent history that has come back after several years of sabbatical to lead a party?"

    1. Joe Clark returned to lead the Tories in the 2000 election
    2. Arthur Meighen made a comeback in 1941, but lost in a by-election.
    3. John Howard had been defeated as Australia's Liberal leader in 1987, and returned to lead to the Liberals to victory in 1996.
    4. Andrew Peacock led the Liberals in the 1983 election, was replaced by John Howard, and then led the Liberals again in 1990 (he lost both times).
    5. After losing the 1998 and 2001 elections, Kim Beazley resigned as leader of Australia's Labor party. However, he came back for awhile in 2005/6 but was driven out as leader before getting to run in the election (Australian politics is very bloody).
    6. Nixon sort of counts - he ran for president unsuccessfully in 1960, left politics (after losing in the 1962 California gubernatorial race), but returned to win in 1968.
    7. Robert Bourassa in Quebec definitely counts. He departed as leader (and premier) after losing to the PQ in 1976. However he returned in 1983, to win two years later.
    8. Bill Vander Zalm was BC's premier in the late 80s, but left politics. He returned as leader of the BC reform party, but lost in a by-election.

    By Anonymous hosertohoosier, at 1:19 a.m.  

  • What was disappointing was that Chretien had a major opportunity to pump up Ignatieff's favourables and instead just talked about the party and platform in general. If I'm not mistaken the only time he said the words "Michael Ignatieff" was when he introduced him at the end of his speech and said he would be a "good" Prime Minister.

    I remember in 2008 at the final rally he was glowing in his praise for Dion, going on for several minutes about what an excellent minister he was and what an excellent PM he would be.

    Chretien had some praise for Ignatieff at the leadership convention in Vancouver in May 2009, I'm a bit surprised he didn't use at least some of those lines.

    Not sure that it matters but it couldn't have hurt since there's lots that he could have said about the experience and world knowledge that Ignatieff would bring as PM, how he's more respected worldwide than Harper is, etc...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:40 a.m.  

  • Vander Zalm was drummed out of office on a major scandal (spent something like 9.0 million to fly a Korean to BC to buy his (Vander Zalm's) wife's amusement park.

    The fact that he came moderately close to returning successfully speaks to the totally off the wall reality that is BC politics and shouldn't be used as an example for anywhere else in Canada.

    For the record, in the 15 years I was in BC I saw I think 5 premiers leave under a cloud (including the I believe NDP premier's home being raided by the RCMP on national TV). Entertainment value of BC politicians high. Governing records... not so much (google Ujjal eg)

    By Blogger Candace, at 4:14 a.m.  

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