Saturday, November 25, 2006

Canada Under Attack

Historian Michael Bliss has a fantastic article in today's Post:


Let there be no misunderstanding about concepts of nation and nationality. The only two meanings of "nation" are (1) a human group bound together by ethnic ties, i.e. ties of blood; (2) a territorial unit that exercises political independence. We call aboriginal Canadians "nations" in that racial or ethnic sense; they used to be seen as tribes. We call Canada a "nation" in the political sense because it is an independent country.

In what sense can Quebecers be considered a nation? Quebec is not an independent country. If Quebecers are a nation because they are of the French-Canadian tribe, the volk, as the Germans used to say, then we are legitimizing racial/ethnic concepts that
are ugly almost beyond belief in the 21st century. We turn all Quebecers who don't have the right blood -- all the Schwartzes and Cohens and others -- into second-class citizens.

"Oh, no," say the politicians and Quebecers who know how offensive the old ethnic nationalism has become. "We're talking here about Quebec and Quebecers as a civic nation -- all those people who live in a territory with a distinctive mix of language, ethnic groups, culture and historical experiences."

The trouble with that redefinition of nation is that all other poliltical territories become nations because every jurisdiction has its own distinctive mix of language, ethnic groups, culture and historical experiences. If Quebec forms a civic nation, then the people of every province of Canada also form civic nations. So, perhaps, do most Canadian cities, towns and villages. The redefined term is meaninglessness and those who use it are spouting intellectual fraud that many of us think is a front for the covert
racism of the old ethnic nationalists.


Bliss is bang on. If you take the definition of nation as a people with a common language, culture, history and territory, you wind up in a world of hurt. First of all, Quebec is an incredibly diverse society, made up of people from a wide range of backgrounds so, unless you want to make the argument that only pure laine are part of the nation, there's no real case to be made. Because, at that point, who isn't a nation. Let's look at the Calgary Nation:

Common land? Yup. Calgary.
Common language? English. A larger percentage of Calgarians speak English than Quebeckers who speak French.
Common culture? There's Stampede. The Flames. The music (country) and the politics (Tory). Seems fairly unique to me.
Common history? Bitching about Ottawa together since 1905.

What about Scott Tribe's Leafs Nation?

Common land? The GTA. Much like francophones outside Quebec, Leaf fans outside Toronto are chopped liver.
Common language? English, by and large. They also have their own chants.
Common culture? Culture of defeat (which, according to Stephen Harper, doesn't make them any different from the Maritime nation I guess...).
Common history? A history of failure.


I could go on and on. But the bottom line is that there is no way to intellectually defend Harper's nation proposal. It's made the Bloc look stupid so call it smart politics if you want but I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why this is the right thing to do.

18 Comments:

  • Well, I was going to write this to Paul Wells, but since he seems to read this blog quite regularly (maybe not the comments), I thought I’d try here instead.

    So, I was watching the tail end of the Vanier Cup, what used to be referred to as the College Bowl or the National Championship for University football. I have an interest since I attended UWO way back when these types of wins were common and expected by the fans.

    It seemed a lame game in terms of offence, but was eventually won by Laval’s Rouge et Or. Congratulations. Never heard of them a few years ago, but they seem to be kicking English butt in recent memory.

    So, it made me wonder, with all of this nation debate this past week…

    To get into the playoffs, the Rouge and Gold would have had to been champions in Quebec. So, for the players born in Quebec, they were “National” (Quebecois) Champions. The non-Quebec born were nothing.

    As a result of winning today’s Vanier Cup (named after a Montreal born former GG who fought for the nation of Canada, and founding member of the Vandoos just to complicate matters), the Rouge et Or Quebecois football players were “National-National champions”, the non-Quebecois were just” National champions”, and the Saskatchewan Huskies were just losers.

    However, if the tide had turned, and the ineffective Husky offense not made some late game bonehead moves, and won, the non-Quebecois Husky players would have been “National Champions”, the Quebecois Huskies (if any were stupid enough to leave Quebec to attend university in the prairies) would have been “no contest- National champions”, and the Rouge et Or would have either been just “Loser-National Champions” or just losers, depending if they were born in Quebec or outside.

    The possibilities are mind boggling.

    By Blogger The Anonymous Green, at 8:12 p.m.  

  • I agree - I've been a strong supporter of Harper til now. He's made strong decisions, he's been bold, and even when I disagree with him, I like his conviction. But this is wrong - it is not 21st Century, it is backwards, and it's throwing a bone to separatists. I didn't support Ignatieff's version - I don't support this (much better, admittedly) version, either. One Canada - you're in or you're out.

    By Blogger Jacques Beau Vert, at 9:14 p.m.  

  • The Liberals coming up on their opo day should pull a Newfoundlander as a nation, or Albertans as a nation.

    Would be interesting to see the votes come down on that one.

    By Blogger Concerned Albertan, at 9:24 p.m.  

  • yeah, but what's Canada.

    what's missing from the one Canada crowd is some coherent articulation fo a vision of Canada that actually jibes with the facts on the ground.

    I don't have to give you a compelling argument so much as recognize there's no compelling argument from you and the facts look very different.

    There is a Canadian Idol and a Star Academie. Slippery slope? Who else has a Star Academie? New Powers? Quebecois already have Star Academie.

    It is the assumption that this one Canada view is obvious and without need for explanation that has killed your side of the debate.

    Unlike the United States that has similar ethnic diversity, Canada has two film industries, two sets of tv channels.

    I was all on board of the "Canada is my nation" campaign that Andrew Coyne dreamt up, until something better came along. And the reason the "Canada is my nation" campaign lost it is because it can't be understood.

    Surely they aren't suggesting the CBC fulfills its mandate of telling Canada's "story".

    And what's to gain from keeping trying to make Canada something like Finland? What's the benefit in that? How has that helped us in the battle against separatists?

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 9:24 p.m.  

  • Newfoundlanders form a nation, no question. an awesome nation.

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 9:36 p.m.  

  • I have to admit to being a bit surprised at all the of the teethgrinding and hair-yanking that is going on over the CPC resolution to recognize the quebecious as a nation WITHIN the nation of canada.

    I mean really. Why is Gilles Duceppe (in spite of his turnabout, which is only an attempt to save face) the only person who fully understands that Harper has cut the seperatists off at the knees?

    The motion makes it clear that the quebecious are a sociological people-group that exist within the civic nation of Canada who make a positive contribution to our overall national fabric. That's the extent of it. all this is is a nod to the reality of multiculturalism which is already enshrined within our laws and institutions. The Quebecious now have that special nod to themselves that they've always wanted. Why can't we just let them have that?

    There are no special powers or priviledges here, it does not imply that the rest of us are all second-class citizens, as Michael Bliss and far too many others seem to think. It simply acknowledges their uniqueness. That's the extent of it. And by the way,just because this acknowledgement does not come with any specific legal powers does not mean that it is a meaningless jumble of words. An acknowledgement of a reality is as powerful as a denial of reality.

    And what if some other minority group within Canada wants the same thing, as some have proposed? Well, if the liberal leadership should ever again decide to play politics with national unity by pandering to the wimperings of a very few, and if their pandering should (once again) create a national crisis which unscrupulous seperatists should (once again) try to exploit, then perhaps the leading politician of the day will have the wherewithal to turn the table on the whole lot of them, and declare that they are a sociologically unique and distinct nation (without special privileges) that exist solidly within the civic nation of Canada.

    so comb your hair back.

    By Blogger just a guy..., at 9:38 p.m.  

  • Precisely. Under this definition of "nation," the maritimes most certainly constitute their own nation, as does Newfoundland, British Columbia, Alberta, the praeries, various parts of Ontario, and pretty much every big city in Canada. This is very divisive; the only type of nation that matters in the post-racist 21st century is the political type. Defining Quebec as a nation is the first step towards its separation. Why else would Andre Boisclair and Gilles Duceppe embrace it so? Heck, Boisclair even said outright that this will give the Parti Quebecois another argument to make in favour of separation!

    By Blogger Ryan Ringer, at 9:53 p.m.  

  • Well said, CG... As an anglo Quebecer (and proud of both my Quebec and Canadian roots), I've been spinning into an out of control spiral of identity crisis, since this whole thing began...

    By Blogger JJ, at 10:24 p.m.  

  • If Canada is divisible then so is Leaf Nation, and I want to keep my part in Canada. I'll be like West Berlin.

    By Blogger Jeff, at 11:10 p.m.  

  • The Constitution already recognises Quebec as a Nation, what is all the fuss about?

    http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=49d28e2e-4cdc-473b-b592-594735c752f6

    By Blogger wilson, at 12:27 a.m.  

  • Again, I'm not a huge fan of this or anything, but let's keep some perspective. In '95, you had Jean Chretien(!) introducing a resolution calling QC a distinct society. Because it was only resolutions of the House - like Harper's motion, or the BQ's for that matter - it didn't have constitutional weight. And while it stirred some comment then, it didn't change much in the long run (if you can call 11 years "the long run).

    There's a diff between a not-so-good-idea and seeing the end of Canada, is all I'm saying.

    By Blogger Jason Hickman, at 2:42 a.m.  

  • I posted this on AC's blog, and I'm posting it here for your quiet (or loud) contemplation:

    Behold .... Canada:

    Everything is temporary in the grand scheme of things -- considering that our border with the United States is the longest undefended invisible dotted line in the world and some freaky people on the American side have taken it upon themselves to patrol the back woods on horseback, perhaps I should don a black Stetson and adopt their cowboy ways, because there is no Canadian way in spite of what Jack Layton has to say about it. (Or Iggy, or Gerard, or Harper or even Don Newman for that matter.)

    I don’t dislike America, how could I? They have HBO and we don’t. This is an unpardonable sin on the part of the CRTC in my view because there isn’t much of anything on Canadian television these days and some idiot at the CBC decided that George Strombolopolous, late a reject from the cult of reality programs after “The One” lasted all of “one” episode amid rabid backlash on the Canadian side because it was going to pre-empt “The National”, is relevant. He isn’t even funny.

    There is nothing more pathetic than our national broadcaster whose viewing demographic is

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:07 a.m.  

  • I posted this on AC's blog, and I'm posting it here for your quiet (or loud) contemplation:

    Behold .... Canada:

    Everything is temporary in the grand scheme of things -- considering that our border with the United States is the longest undefended invisible dotted line in the world and some freaky people on the American side have taken it upon themselves to patrol the back woods on horseback, perhaps I should don a black Stetson and adopt their cowboy ways, because there is no Canadian way in spite of what Jack Layton has to say about it. (Or Iggy, or Gerard, or Harper or even Don Newman for that matter.)

    I don’t dislike America, how could I? They have HBO and we don’t. This is an unpardonable sin on the part of the CRTC in my view because there isn’t much of anything on Canadian television these days and some idiot at the CBC decided that George Strombolopolous, late a reject from the cult of reality programs after “The One” lasted all of “one” episode amid rabid backlash on the Canadian side because it was going to pre-empt “The National”, is relevant. He isn’t even funny.

    There is nothing more pathetic than our national broadcaster whose viewing demographic is made up of blue collar hockey fans and agendized special interest types, trying desperately to be hip when the hipsters and those in the know are actually online watching some overweight retard make a fool of himself by lip-syncing the words to some obscure dance song on You-Tube.

    Kevin Newman is by far the better anchor for a national news broadcast, and though I have always looked up to Lloyd Robertson as a fatherly kind of guy. His bullet proof hair can’t compete with Kevin’s stylish glasses and svelt physique. I won’t c

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:11 a.m.  

  • Isn't there a conflict between Coyne and Bliss' counsel on this matter? Coyne says someone should advance a case for Canada as a nation. Bliss seems to think defining nations is inherently fraught with pitfalls. So which is it? Should we refuse to define Quebec as a nation, and instead push the idea of a Canadian nation? Or should we avoid this "nation" business altogether?

    I don't say this flippantly. I would be lying if I didn't think the Harper resolution was risky. But at the same time, I don't understand the howls from some detractors - how is this any further down the slope than we've already come?

    By Blogger ALW, at 10:25 a.m.  

  • It always baffles me as to why leaders reject the notion of bilingualism. Why can't French and English be the national languages of Canada, and Spanish and English those of the U.S.?

    By Blogger Matthew Bamberg, at 11:00 a.m.  

  • alw; I think Coyne and Bliss are on the same page. Bliss says off the bat that countries are nations. For him it'd just be a redundancy to define Canada as a nation likely.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 1:49 p.m.  

  • We still have 11 Stanley Cups 'Grit. 2nd only to Montreal. When Calgary gets that high.. talk to me about "Culture of failure" ;)

    By Blogger Oxford County Liberals, at 8:19 p.m.  

  • By Blogger raybanoutlet001, at 9:40 p.m.  

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