Thursday, August 10, 2006

The Elite Eight

Greatest Prime Minister We Never Had - Round 2
Matchup 1
Robert Stanfield
Peter Lougheed
Matchup 2
George Etienne Cartier
Tommy Douglas
Matchup 3
Preston Manning
Roy Romanow
Matchup 4
Frank McKenna
Ed Broadbent

(view results)

The second round is set. You can see the full first round results here.

The third seed, Ed Broadbent fended off a spirited challenge from John Manley by a mere 17 votes - he'll advance to face the only upset winner of the first round, and only Liberal left standing, Frank McKenna.

The top seed, Robert Stanfield, had an easy ride in the first round and will face former Alberta Premier Peter Lougheed.

In a left versus right matchup, it will be Preston Manning versus Roy Romanow.

And, in a battle between two individuals who could very well win the entire tournament, it will be Greatest Canadian Tommy Douglas against the only 19th Century candidate left, George Etienne Cartier.

Round two closes on Tuesday - one vote per day until then.


  • If there's one thing we can garner from the early results, it is that no one likes Peter Lougheed.

    By Blogger LeoPetr, at 1:00 p.m.  

  • Former premiers ruled in the first round. Except for Bill Davis, they all won.

    By Blogger CrescentHeightsGuy, at 2:27 p.m.  

  • I can't believe McGee lost...

    By Blogger James Bowie, at 2:28 p.m.  

  • Come on people... don't let BROADBENT beat McKenna!!! Geez!

    By Blogger Forward Looking Canadian, at 2:40 p.m.  

  • Whoa, Manning vs Romanow!! Broadbent vs McKenna! Cartier vs. Douglas! Now THIS is an amazing match-up!!! Stanfield vs. Lougheed is also really terrific. This one'll be good!!

    By Blogger Jacques Beau Vert, at 2:55 p.m.  

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    By Blogger Peter, at 3:11 p.m.  

  • Oh well - if Crosbie had to lose to someone, I'm glad it was Lougheed.

    I agree with Jason BG - those are some dandy second-round matchups.

    By Blogger Jason Hickman, at 3:26 p.m.  

  • I posted yesterday about your biography on Ed Broadbent, but since the blog entry was from several days ago, I've realized that it will most likely not be seen. Therefore, since Broadbent is in the final eight, I feel compelled to write again here that the bio you posted of him is factually incorrect: you mixed up his conduct during the election of 1988 with that of John Turner (I know because I'm finishing a 30 pages paper on that election). It was Turner who wrapped himself in the flag, was considered to "win" the debate, and was the one who provoked the Conservative "bomb the bridges campaign." Broadbent preferred to stay away from the issue of free trade, though he opposed it. Instead, he focused on his "integrity as a leader" (this actually annoyed a lot of his supporters who had spent considerable money and effort creating anti-free trade propaganda). It was only toward the end of the campaign, when Broadbent realized he was losing support to the Liberals, that he really started to campaign hard against free trade.

    By Blogger Ottawa Grit, at 6:53 p.m.  

  • jen; That was the intent. I figured Broadbent could have won the election (well...maybe not...but he could have beat the Liberals) had he played up the anti-FT Captain Canada Schtick while Turner sat back. So I pretty much flipped their roles (right down to the debate performance and the "bomb the bridge" strategy used against Turner) as the catalyst for Broadbent winning the election.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 6:59 p.m.  

  • Broadbent stayed away from free trade for one reason. To prevent a repeat of 1974. Single issue campaigns hurt the NDP.

    By Blogger Liberal Fortunes, at 9:04 p.m.  

  • Ah, I see; I guess I didn't get the gist of the contest. Much apologies, and thanks for letting me know. Cheers.

    By Blogger Ottawa Grit, at 10:00 p.m.  

  • Peter Lougheed,

    Instituted a tax on the oil as it was getting taken out the ground.

    Is Nova Scotia doing it with coal? Is Ontario doing it with nickel and gold? Is B.C. charging $1/tree for every cut tree taken off crown land? Is NWT doing it with diamonds? Nope! Nope! Nope! Nope!

    As a result of Lougheed's risk in irritating oil companies Alberta has no sales tax.

    Lougheed as prime minister would have seen no need for the GST. He would have taxed minerals coming out of the ground instead (which would have benefitted all Canadians instead of multinationals and their shareholders).


    By Blogger Peter, at 10:39 a.m.  

  • Now these are some great matchups. Pretty clear choices all the way.

    By Blogger Michael Fox, at 11:19 a.m.  

  • peter; Alberta's oil royalties are less than most other countries in the world.

    If they charge the some royalty rates as a place like Norway, there'd be even more wealth in the provincial coffers.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 1:36 p.m.  

  • CalgaryGrit,

    You are right. A smart prime minister would take it to the same level as other countries.

    Oil companies and other multinational companies giving executives 9-digit retirement packages (Exxon - $500M U.S.) should not have a problem with this considering they do not have to deal with terrorists or warlords to make a profit.

    Lougheed was ahead of his time.

    I remember asking at a Federal all-candidate's debate at Bishop Carroll why the federal government did not tax gold the same way they tax oil.

    25 years later, multinationals get free reign of our resources in the name of jobs. The reality is, a small stumpage fee or royalty should be placed on all Canada's resources (including bottled water). The tar sands reveal that if you wait long enough, the value of the resource will far exceed cost.


    By Blogger Peter, at 3:27 p.m.  

  • How you can put John Manley on that list and not HH Stevens, or Don Flemming, or Eric Keirans, or Paul Martin... no the other one, is beyond me.

    By Blogger Sean Tisdall, at 8:07 p.m.  

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