Friday, October 10, 2008

Begrudging Credit

Anyone else think it's about time we give Gilles Duceppe some credit for his latest Lazarus feat? And this one wasn't even Adscam-aided.

9 Comments:

  • Well, we do need more liquidity in the credit markets.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:06 AM  

  • Duceppe's remarks illustrate a begrudging respect for Dion. Duceppe didn't need to make those remarks and their is a touch of self-interest in solidifying his base. But I have to agree: time to give credit where it's due.

    By Blogger Deb Prothero, at 3:59 AM  

  • It's very, very easy to run when you have never governed, never will govern. All you need to do is keep criticizing others until you find something that resonates.

    No. No credit. None is due.

    By Blogger Robert Vollman, at 11:15 AM  

  • Duceppe is clearly the best politician of the bunch, if he was running for PM he'd win.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:37 AM  

  • Harper should have had happy, hopeful ads about offering Quebec a new type of federalism, based on the Allaire Report. Instead he became his own dangerous loudmouth.
    The bright side for Harper is he will be back in power and he doens't have to deliver booty to many Quebec ridings.
    The question now is if the Conservatives and Liberals want to undermine the BQ. Changing party funding rules so that only parties that run candidates in all provinces get full funding would be a start.

    By Blogger nuna d. above, at 12:58 PM  

  • I don't because he does this EVERY election. It is easy to run a regional campaign against parties trying primarily to win anglophone seats from the other national parties, who are capped in how much they can spend.

    The Bloc gained support over pre-election polls in every election. From LISPOP (last pre-campaign poll to election poll):

    1993: 10 -> 14 +4
    1997: 8 -> 11 +3
    2000: 10 -> 11 +1
    2004: 12 -> 13 +1

    This is partly because the incumbent party almost always does worse than pre-election polls predict. This was the case in every post-1962 election except 1974 and 1988 (where they had the same results as pre-election polls predicted, but had dropped considerably in the campaign).

    August polls had the Bloc in the 8-10% range. The Bloc is now in the 10-11% range. It only looks like a big change in Quebec polls, where it involves a change in voter intention similar to what we have seen in most other provinces too (because regional polls have 6-8 margins of error). Their ressurection has more to do with a drop in Conservative fortunes - with very few ex-Tories going to the Bloc (it is a federalist vote split problem). How do I know this? Only 6% of Bloc voters consider the Conservatives their second choice (according to Ekos).

    Moreover, contrary to the meme of Duceppe the great politician, here is the amount of support he has won in Quebec:
    1997: 37.9%
    2000: 39.9%
    2004: 48.9%
    2006: 42.1%
    2008: 40% (according to Ekos' latest)

    By Blogger hosertohoosier, at 2:25 PM  

  • "Duceppe's remarks illustrate a begrudging respect for Dion. Duceppe didn't need to make those remarks and their is a touch of self-interest in solidifying his base. But I have to agree: time to give credit where it's due."

    Absolutely ridiculous - after the English debates Duceppe said he sort of pitied Dion, whose English isn't very strong. Duceppe is callously exploiting the Dion interview as an instance of the Anglo media and the Anglo Conservatives being mean to a French Canadian for having an accent. It is crassly political (I don't blame him for it - I would do that if I were leader of the BQ, but it is hardly grudging respect for the most hated vendu of all).

    By Blogger hosertohoosier, at 2:28 PM  

  • Moreover, contrary to the meme of Duceppe the great politician, here is the amount of support he has won in Quebec:
    1997: 37.9%
    2000: 39.9%
    2004: 48.9%
    2006: 42.1%
    2008: 40% (according to Ekos' latest)


    That's a solid record.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:43 PM  

  • Calgarygrit, you know how it feels when the Liberals lose every single election in Calgary to the Tory machine?

    That's how I feel here in Blocland (Montreal's south shore suburbs). Saint-Bruno--Saint-Hubert has been Bloc since Venne crossed the floor two decades ago and the only federal vote I've been on the winning side of has been the '95 referendum (which wasn't exactly federal, but you know what I mean).

    Maybe once Duceppe leaves they'll put someone incompetent in charge of the party and they can go the way of the old Union Nationale.

    By Anonymous Mike Berthold, at 2:10 AM  

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