A Tough Start
If only the e-mail in question had been in French...then we'd know Brison had nothing to do with it.
posted by calgarygrit at 11:19 a.m.
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Bad for Brison and bad for the Liberal party. Please, no more leadership candidates with scandal and controversy. We need to clean house in the Liberal Party.
By Anonymous, at 11:27 a.m.
In other leadership news. The Manitoba Young Liberals are hosting a fundriaser with Belinda this evening in St. Boniface (the heart of Franco-Manitoba). She is giving a speech on values and the future of liberal ideals, I can't wait to pop a question or two in French and watch Alcock's head explode.
If I never post again after tonight I urge you to contact the Winnipeg Police and have them search the trunk of Alcock's car.
By Anonymous, at 11:49 a.m.
I wouldn't be too concerned. CIBC trades in countless stocks, etc. Simply saying they will like the news that is to come means nothing since Bryson did not say what aspect of the market would be benefitting from the announcement, and thus CIBC still had no clue what to buy. This means even less when you consider that the media was reporting that favourable news would be coming, but they didn't identify the sector of the market either. I suspect this is nothing, simple media sensationalization to add the same kind of ethical warfare to the LPC leadership race that we saw in the last two fed elections.
By Nathan Hewitson, at 12:38 p.m.
Its a telling sign when the party whose mantra is "power at all costs" can't even find someone to lead them.
Oh yes, the future is certainly bright for the Liberal Party of Canada, lol.
By Anonymous, at 12:38 p.m.
CG,
I laughed out loud when I read your comment about the email being in French. SO clever!!
Brison is bad news anyway this just seals his fate. Makes you worry about the end result of this probe though. What happens if in 7 months the report concludes that several senior cabinet ministers were involved in a scandal... well I think you know that means the Libs don't have a hope of winning the next election. "It wasn't me it was the other guy" just doesn't cut it anymore.
By Forward Looking Canadian, at 12:53 p.m.
"I wouldn't be too concerned. CIBC trades in countless stocks, etc. Simply saying they will like the news that is to come means nothing since Bryson did not say what aspect of the market would be benefitting from the announcement, and thus CIBC still had no clue what to buy."
As a securities lawyer, I can tell you as a matter of fact this is not the case. Mr. Brison is in a wee bit of trouble.
I have a funny feeling the Earnscliffe rats are going to have to find a new ship to jump to shortly 'cause this one's going down quickly.
By Anonymous, at 1:07 p.m.
Scott's having a rough week. he spent the weekend watching other leadership contenders like Ignatieff and Stronach being shown around his backyard at the Nova Scotia AGM (of course Belinda didn't stay for more than a day) and now he's getting his name lumped in to the scandal pot. Scott's only appeal has been he's "untainted by scandal" that's why he was Minister of Public Works and that's why the Board was so inclined to get behind him once McKenna backed down.
It must feel real lonely to have all his fellow Nova Scotia Caucus members giving Michael Ignatieff the leader's tour and listening to all the young liberals cheering for everyone but him.
At least he has his friends in BC. Well at least one friend in BC.
By Michael Crook, at 1:15 p.m.
Joshp; LOL. I really went back and forth between the french joke and the blackberry joke.
By calgarygrit, at 1:17 p.m.
Lorne, tell the whole story. The real fame of the Esplanade is because of its unconventional location the toilet cost a cool one million dollars to install. Now, I know many of you think Winnipeggers are cheap, but I ask you, how many hamburger stands in your town have a million dollar shitter?
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
By Don, at 1:17 p.m.
Of course Don you're not mentioning where the Winnipeg Free Press called the Esplanade Salisbury House a "Raging Success".
By Dan McKenzie, at 1:24 p.m.
The bridge is most definitely located in St. Boniface. To say otherwise is to be specific to the point of meaninglessness.
And the restaurant, as Dan points out, is most definitely a raging success. I plan on taking at least one good shot at the $1M toilet this Wednesday at Belinda's party!
By Anonymous, at 1:42 p.m.
According to Ralph Goodale, only McCallum, Valeri and 3 people from PMO knew about the income trust legislation before it got leaked. Goodale didn't name which 3 people from the PMO knew. What I find interesting is that I was told by someone who worked closely with David Emerson is that many of the PMO appointments were made on Emerson's recommendation. Could one of Emerson's people in the PMO have leaked the income trust information to Bryson?
By Anonymous, at 1:42 p.m.
every rock the conservatives turn over another liberal slug is found enjoy lefties Iam.
By Anonymous, at 1:46 p.m.
I wonder which of Scott's leadership rivals leaked this to the press.
By Anonymous, at 1:48 p.m.
I wonder which of Scott's leadership rivals leaked this to the press.
Now that's an interesting question. Since Scotty seems to have some board support, I'm guessing it's The Mole.
...many of the PMO appointments were made on Emerson's recommendation. Could one of Emerson's people in the PMO have leaked the income trust information...
Delicious were it true, but it seems unlikely. From what I understand Emerson's own staff were imposed on him by the Martin PMO. If he couldn't hire his own staff, it seems unlikely he'd have too much say in hiring the PMO's.
By Jeff, at 1:57 p.m.
It's more like Martin's own staff were imposed on him by Emerson. Furthermore, several of Emerson's former aides were conspicuous at a reception for Scott Brison in Vancouver two weeks ago as were 3/4's of the Earnscliffe Strategy Group's BC contingent.
By Anonymous, at 2:20 p.m.
M. Crook: To be clear, I think Brison did fine at the AGM; his panel answers were good, he seemed confident, and he had a big mixer Friday night judging from all the posters. Ignatieff's successes there were really exciting for me, but it wasn't as though Scott was sitting alone and forlorn in a corner.
Regarding the income trust debate and especially the anon comments, I support someone other than Brison, but negative campaigning - in general but especially at this stage - really not a good sign.
We all talk about getting past the infighting and fratricide, but it seems like a lot of people want to get there via the "crush your enemies, drive them before you, hear the lamentations of their spouses" route. Where do you suppose that will lead us? Back into internal divisions. We can crush and destroy the other parties to our heart's content, but in leadership battles ruthlessness is costly.
What's more, every "anon" whisper about candidate X reflects badly on candidates W, Y and Z, because noone can know whose supporters - if anyone's - are going into the gutter. So there could be an anonymous race to the bottom if things really go negative, with Tories and NDPs adding in black propaganda to make us hate each other even more.
I don't think we want that. The "income trusts" issue seemed like an opposition ploy to me during the election, and this may well be an irrelevant detail which just happens to fit into NDP/Tory attacks - we would be fools to help out LPC enemies by making their allegations credible out of a desire to slag a candidate we don't support. There is no point to our backbiting, as this story will go one way or another in the MSM whatever we do.
By Anonymous, at 2:53 p.m.
The timing and content of the email give authorities a precise chronological point from which to examine trading in these securities. While much of the volume occured on the day of the announcement, the suspicious activity actually began the previous day. While CIBC has seemingly exhonerated themselves, It is not clear whether the recipient tipped off anyone at other firms.
Nevertheless, the notion that Brison would email anybody at an investment bank or financial institution privately informing them of a material non-public MOF decision is scandalous.
The suggestion that the recipient would be pleased is a message with only one reasonable and logical conclusion.
What I believe can be declared invalid if these Brison email allegations are true is the theory that the market simply speculated a favourable decision was rapidly forthcoming.
By Anonymous, at 3:17 p.m.
This is really bad.
Brison must now bow out of the race and fade into oblivion!
Seriously, we can't have a leadership race clouded by the implication of scandal.
We need to renew, not bask in past corruption.
By Anonymous, at 3:22 p.m.
if the email is truly nothing to be concerned about then he should just release it.
otherwise, i really have to feel that this guy is finished.
seriously, do you think the tories would be any more kind than to portray scott as a floor crosser that leaks secret government policy decisions!
...hey...wait await...earnscliffe might hire him then...
By Anonymous, at 3:28 p.m.
The Emerson connection gets even more bizarre when you consider most of the people the TeamBC branch of the 2006 campaign were Emerson apointees from the MRO and PMO. On Saturday at the LPCBC presidents council I spoke with someone who was an insider at the BC campaign headquarters. This person told me that the infamous "soldiers in the streets" attack ad was leaked from the Liberal campaign's Vancouver office by a former special assistant to Sheila Copps who was working at the TeamBC Vancouver headquarters.
By Anonymous, at 3:41 p.m.
Lorne: I did not mean to impugn the good people who run the restaurant. However, some of their success is due to the fact they did have to bear the cost of their over-expensive throne room.
http://centreofcanada.blogspot.com/
By Don, at 3:53 p.m.
Anon 1:41, that is a cute story, but it is a pile of crap, the soldiers on the street ad was on the CD with all the others which was released by the Party to the media.
By Anonymous, at 4:56 p.m.
Well guess who gave $500 to Mr. Brison during the last election campaign that corporate donations were fully allowed? [Hint: it starts and ends with a 'c' and has an 'IB' in the middle]
http://www.elections.ca/scripts/ecCandidates2/Default.asp?L=E&EL=226&DB=AsSubmitted&ST=Cand&Page=SearchByCandResults&SS=4&PRV=&ED=&PTY=&ID=82
Nothing to see here....
By Anonymous, at 4:57 p.m.
back when Progressive Conservative. They also gave $500 to Deborah Grey, Chuck Strahl, and a bunch of other Conservative and Alliance candidates, including the one that ran against Paul Martin. Also, a few Liberals, but no Dippers.
Nothing to see here...
By Jeff, at 5:16 p.m.
I've read a lot of posts who say it's nothing.
Well how about this?
You've been asking your girlfriend to go all the way and until now she has refused. Then one day she says to you . . . 'I think you will be happier very soon, this week probably'". You know you're going to get lucky. There is no other way to read anything else into that statement. Well that's what Scott Brison said to a banker who was involved with income trusts. What possible other conslusions could you draw from that?
By Anonymous, at 5:17 p.m.
Parliament passed a little law back in 2004 called Bill C-13. The bill amended the Criminal Code to help deal with insider trading and other financial market matters. It was our response to Enron.
Section 382.1(2) creates a new Criminal Code offence of tipping. The offence of tipping occurs when "a person who knowingly conveys inside information, except when necessary in the course of business, that they possess to another person, knowing that there is a risk that the person will use the information to buy or sell,
directly or indirectly, a security to which the information relates, or that the person may convey the information to another person who may buy or sell such security."
Note that for somebody to be guilty of tipping, it doesn't matter whether the recipient of the information acted on the tip, simply that they knew there "is a risk" that the info may be acted on.
I provide no further analysis other than reread today's Globe article, presume it is all true and then reread the passage from the criminal code posted above. Ask yourself again if this is "nothing".
By Anonymous, at 5:47 p.m.
Brison looked like hell in front of the press this afternoon. Not good for him at all. Which is too bad cause I thought he'd have a kingmaker's (queenmaker's?) run at it. I still hope in the end it's not Belinda. Anyone, anyone but Belinda.
By Anonymous, at 6:27 p.m.
Let me fill in the the blanks in regards to the Emerson-Brison-BC connection. David Emerson was the political minister for BC under Martin which meant he was responsible for the BC branch of the Ministers Regional Office. Two of the people hired to work at the MRO under Emerson's tenure were Bill Cunningham and Mike Witherley. The two are close associates dating back to when Cunningham was LPCBC president and Witherley was chief of staff at the LPCBC head office in Vancouver. Scott Brison visited BC twice during the last election, once to help Bill Cunningham campaign for the federal seat in Burnaby-Douglas. Bill Cunningham, NOT Mark Marissen, was the one who organized the reception for Scott Brison in Vancouver. Mike Witherly was promoted to the PMO on Emerson's recommendation where he acted as the PMO's spokesperson for Western Canada. As the person responsible for PMO press releases for Western Canada, Witherly likely would have been one of the PMO staffers briefed about the Income Trust legislation before it was announced to the public. So you see there is a line of connection between David Emerson, the BC MRO,the PMO and Scott Brison.
By Anonymous, at 6:39 p.m.
anonymous,
maybe you think you are going to get laid. but you don't know how she's going to get you laid:
maybe she'll do it.
maybe she'll let you out with the boys and find a nice girl to do it.
yeah, you'll be smiling come Sunday morning. From Wednesday's perspective, you still don't know how its going to happen.
So, Scotty was teasing a friend with a little "government priveledge" information. No big deal.
Until some hard evidence shows up, Scotty stays in the leadership game.
By Tarkwell Robotico, at 7:59 p.m.
chucker, was Brison looking to impress a special friend with how powerful and important he is?
Questions that need to be answered. Was Brison looking to get some action from this fella in the future? Or was it payback for services rendered after the Stones concert?
By Anonymous, at 8:21 p.m.
Hey Chuckercanuck. The only thing a guy cares about is getting laid. No matter how you put it he still got laid.
By Anonymous, at 8:48 p.m.
So Brison sent an email saying "I think you will be happier very soon, this week probably", in response to someone complaining that the government had brought Canadian equity markets to a standstill.
3 hours before the email was sent the finance minister, Ralph Goodale, said in a media scrum that he would provide some direction on a proposed solution to the income trust dilemma before the government fell on Monday (5 days away).
hmmmmm.....sounds like they were saying the same thing.
In addition, everyone following the matter knew that the gov't would act before an election was called and that meant probable good news, since it was Canadian investors (voters) who had been taking a bath in income trust losses for weeks while waiting for the December 31 deadline for recommendations on what to do with the income trusts.
This is all a tempest in a teapot.
By Anonymous, at 8:56 p.m.
At this point, he doesn't seem to be denying the email nor its contents. He's just trying to sugar-coat it.
Brison's either a phony or inept. As a cabinet minister he should have been all to aware of how indictable that email looks.
Second, as a PC in opposition, he moonlighted at Yorkton Securities.
With his CV, he should know or ought to have known.
By Anonymous, at 9:02 p.m.
The strangest thing about anonymous, is he always comes across as a split personality type.
By Tarkwell Robotico, at 9:57 p.m.
The sad thing, I was, for no particular reason, feeling excited about having a gay Prime Minister.
Do any countries currently have a gay leader? Not that I'm aware of.
If he smoked marijuana, confessed to eating raw cookie dough, and started dating some gay Hollywood type, like that kid on Who's The Boss, I'd be all like, "Dude, this is too much to pass up!" I'd probably volunteer for him.
By Anonymous, at 12:09 a.m.
"The sad thing, I was, for no particular reason, feeling excited about having a gay Prime Minister."
Somehow, this just makes me want to puke.
Must be a liberal.
God, between gays and dimwitted broads, can't you guys come up with something better as a leader.
Maybe you could bring Martin back-kinda like to help implement the Gomery recommendations.
Horney Toad
By Anonymous, at 2:42 a.m.
"The sad thing, I was, for no particular reason, feeling excited about having a gay Prime minister".
Why would someone this stupid choose to demonstrate their stupidity? The statement is absurd. Remove "gay" and it makes no sense, ipso facto we have your reason for excitement.
By Anonymous, at 6:11 a.m.
Uh, because I was trying to be funny. Perhaps it was a lame attempt at humour....
By Anonymous, at 9:52 a.m.
Brison s not a real contender for Liberal leadership.
In fact, none of the above qualify as potential leadership except for Ignatief.
The only way he could qualify is by appearing in the MSM daily, beginning with saving ten teen age figure skaters from the freezing waters of the Rideau canal, if you get my drift.
They have no choice. Paul Martin will be drafted back into harness.
Seems our unorganized incompeteant government of Canada has sent our guys out to fight on quicksand.
Be sure to catch the CBC TV News special tonight by Carole Off.
They talked about it on the Current:
Listen to part 2:
http://tinyurl.com/rmpjb
TG
By TonyGuitar, at 3:53 p.m.
Pretty helpful piece of writing, thanks so much for your post.
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