Friday, February 10, 2006

Party On Garth

Since all the cool bloggers are doing it, I'll post a link to Garth Turner's blog, where he trashes his party and leader over the Emerson and Fortier fiasco.

I applaud Turner for his principled stand, and think he has every right to speak out about these hypocritical appointments. But, that said, his blogging is certainly not doing the Conservative Party any favours. And it's certainly not appropriate to discuss a private dressing down he got from the Prime Minister. There's something to be said for being a "team player" (within reason) and if I were a Tory, I think I'd be a little peeved towards Garth right now.

But I'm not a Tory, so: Blog On Garth! Blog On!


  • Well, he wasn't going to be in cabinet anyway, right?

    If I lived in Halton, I'd be tempted to give Garth some slack when his leader/party crash and burn in the next election.

    By Blogger JP, at 6:12 p.m.  

  • For all the bashing the Liberals have had to endure, amid predictions of party annihilation etc., it's refreshing to see a Conservative trying to keep his party on the straight and narrow. This should be a good example for all politicians. Enough of this behind the scenes garbage, from all parties, they need to speak out to us. We're the people who elect them. I'm tired of scandal after scandal and back room dealings.

    I can't stand Garth personally but applaud what he's doing.

    By Blogger Carrie, at 6:16 p.m.  

  • I don't know if I'm just reading you wrong, CG, but what I hear you saying is that it's OK for him to do this because it's helpful to our side.

    That's probably not what you meant, but that's what I'm hearing.

    I'd say this is the right thing for him to do. Liberal or Tory, I want to know when the person I elect to do a particular thing finds themselves prevented from doing that thing, and I want to know how, and why.

    I only regret not having seen this kind of outspoken honesty from any elected Liberals recently.

    By Blogger Gauntlet, at 6:19 p.m.  

  • I am not really going to take too much joy in the fact that Garth is burning Harper.

    I just impressed that a Tory MP has integrity.

    Garth Turner would have my vote if he were my MP.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:26 p.m.  

  • One can respectfully disagree without violating private confidences and without using inflammatory rhetoric.

    The manner in which he's doing it seems to belie his stated intention.

    By Anonymous biff, at 6:52 p.m.  

  • He also is doing a series of talk shows.

    Which means he's not reluctantly disagreeing with, but actively trying to subvert, his own party.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:55 p.m.  

  • Maybe he'll crossover! Stranger things have happened. Nah, couldn't happen! Right?

    By Blogger JD, at 7:08 p.m.  

  • It's a fine line. He can certainly disagree and it's good that he's showing some principle in all this.

    But he's being very loud about his disagreement, doing talk shows, talking about private short, he's coming pretty close to the line.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 7:29 p.m.  

  • at least someone has the courage.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:41 p.m.  

  • garth has never been a team player . Even during the campaign his unauthorized campaign literature and unauthorized ads called the conservative agenda "my Plan" which of course was a bit of a joke.
    He thinks that he is above the law as demonstrated at least three times during the campaign that I witnessed personally and he is just making noise because he was skipped over for cabinet.
    He is right on the issue but beleive me he is yelling not out of principle but out of agenda and there is a difference.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:46 p.m.  

  • I would laugh if this ended up being another Carolyn Parrish. All Garth needs is to say that he doesn't care if Harper loses the next election.

    By Blogger Hangin to the left, at 7:49 p.m.  

  • Hey, the guy has nothing to lose, so why the hell not take a principled stand on the issue? Now if only some more Conservative MPs would get off their asses and speak their mind (not that I’m suggesting a connection there), that would make for some good political theatre.

    By Blogger Red Tory, at 7:53 p.m.  

  • What are you, Aunt Bea from the old Andy of Mayberry show? Not appropriate to talk about a private meeting?

    Who the hell cares if it was appropriate or not? Harper has screwed democracy right in the ear. He does not deserve one moment of privacy until he makes this right!

    By Blogger johnny maudlin, at 8:12 p.m.  

  • PM Harper is continuing to apply pressure to MP Garth Turner for opposing the Turncoat Emerson. This pressure according to Mr. Turner has been done via other Conservative MPs as well as a direct meeting with PM Harper.

    Since Mr. Turner has clearly stated his principled position on this matter, PM Harper’s continued effort to silence him will not go over well. Mr. Turner is receiving a lot of support on this issue both in his riding and by Conservatives around the country.

    Considering that Mr. Turner’s position has a great deal of support does it make any sense to turn Garth into a Martyr?

    The stated point of this blog is to Remove Emerson – not to harm the party or PM Harper. Any harm so far has come as a direct result of PM Harper’s actions that he should have known were directly against many Conservative MPs. Further harm will come because PM Harper has not corrected the problem and now is attempting to turn Conservative MPs into ‘Liberal backbencher Yes’ men.

    Visit this blog to hold Conservative accountable

    By Blogger Gary McHale, at 8:25 p.m.  

  • Garth just needs to strengthen his resolve at this point. I'm no CPCer but we need more of him in the big "O".

    K-Dough's Canada

    By Blogger K-Dough, at 9:19 p.m.  

  • Garth is a light weight. He fancied himself as a financial advisor when he lost the election in 1993. His advice was kind of lame. Let's not pay too much attention to him now. He'll be lost in the mists of time.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:04 p.m.  

  • Garth seems surprised that his leader does not agre with his position that MPs should not be allowed to cross the floor. Why is he surprised?

    Stephen Harper himself told Peter Mansbridge four days BEFORE the election that he didn't agree with those who wanted to ban floor crossings as it gives too much power to party leaders.

    Harper said this...

    on CBC.

    in Canada.

    Before the election

    I'm not making this up.

    I'm not allowed to.

    By Anonymous Two Cents, at 11:04 p.m.  

  • I am pro NDP and I campaigned hard for Svend Robinson, but as a westerner I had high hopes for Stephen Harper at his swearing in. I was proud of him. Sadly for Canada and the west he squandered every gram of moral authority in one fell swoop by stealing the hard fought votes of Vancouver Kingsway. I have heard every morally twisted argument by tories from across Canada as to why it was okay to steal Emerson from the people of Vancouver Kingsway, a riding that has only gone conservative once in its history, and then in 1954, but they all ring hollow. Kick the bas*d David Emerson out and call a new election. Otherwise Haiti will look like a glowing bastion of democracy in comparison to Canada.

    By Blogger bijoux55, at 2:20 p.m.  

  • If you went to his blog, you'd have noticed about 500 or so peeved responses.

    Garth will do the right thing in the end, and the Tories need guys like him to help further electoral reform.

    By Blogger Joe Calgary, at 1:20 p.m.  

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