Friday, July 21, 2006

"In a campaign, you need to rip your opponents' hearts out"

Jim Karygiannis has quit as Joe Volpe's campaign manager over differences on Lebanon.

For those calling this a "fatal" blow, I wouldn't be so quick. Like it or not (and I don't know why you'd like it), Volpe is going to continue his inevitable march to fourth place and a role as kingmaker in Montreal.

Still, watching the Volpe campaign has been kind of entertaining, in a Plan 9 from Outer Space sort of way.


  • I don't think Volpe is done, either, Bart. He's there for the long haul.

    By Blogger Jacques Beau Vert, at 5:56 p.m.  

  • My hunch is that Volpe alone, without Jimmy K, doesnt have the clout or the connections to transform half of those instant Liberals into delegates. He will likely carry on, and bring delegates to convention; but his "kingmaker" status has been downgraded a tier or two.

    By Blogger KC, at 5:59 p.m.  

  • I agree with Kyle. Plus, Karygiannis will bring a lot of his team away as well.

    I'm hearing Comuzzi is leaving too but that hasn't been confirmed.

    Still, a good day for the Liberal Party.

    By Blogger Ted Betts, at 6:10 p.m.  

  • Is Jimmy K still supporting Volpe, or has he just steped down as campaign manager?

    I agree that if he does leave to support another candidate, it will make things difficult for Joe, but I still think the guy will do well. Top 6 at the bare miminum.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 6:13 p.m.  

  • Good point Bart. I guess the key question is whether or not Karygiannis is leaving the Volpe camp completely or just leaving as its campaign manager. If it is latter, how well Volpe does will depend in part on how much involvement Karyigiannis retains.

    By Blogger KC, at 6:20 p.m.  

  • So....what is the strategy to be used when the sleazebag loses the support of the scumbucket?

    Makes for an interesting discussion I'm sure.

    By Blogger James Halifax, at 6:38 p.m.  

  • So he parts company with the campaign after Volpe takes a position he doesn't like on the Middle East. A position which was no surprise given his track record on Isreal and the Middle East.

    Anyone who knows Volpe knows about his strong support of Isreal. So Jimmy K leaves and people are willing to argue that Jimmy knows 35K people personally and they will listen to him and stay home or switch because of this?

    Come on. At least Volpe didn't change his position just to appease him.

    By Blogger RedMapleLeaf, at 7:35 p.m.  

  • I wonder if the split has anything to do with this:

    It has to be extremely difficult to reconcile his support for Israel with his campaign's assertion that he will recognize the Hamas government without preconditions. My two cented guess is that Jimmy K was making a lot of promises to a lot of groups to win mass support and at some point Volpe had enough.

    By Blogger Peter Loewen, at 7:39 p.m.  

  • This is truly a sad day for both subterfuge and skulduggery.

    Perhaps he'll pull out and support a candidate with a better chance of winning... like Hedy Fry.

    By Blogger The Frog Lady, at 7:52 p.m.  

  • This is truly a sad day for both subterfuge and skullduggery.

    Um, okay - I just fell in love here.

    Like, hard. Like, falling off a cliff hard.

    I choo-choo-choose you!

    By Blogger Jacques Beau Vert, at 8:57 p.m.  

  • This is a bit fishy, actually. Karygiannis will have known about Volpe's views on this from the get go. And now he quits?

    By Blogger Ted Betts, at 9:16 p.m.  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:12 p.m.  

  • Um, okay - I just fell in love here
    And why not, you both are green....

    Sorry wrong blog... now where is that bitch ass Jason Cherniak..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:12 p.m.  

  • "Calgary Grit: Helping anonymous bloggers find love since 2004"

    Move over Lava Life!

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 10:18 p.m.  

  • You're not suggesting Enza is being tapped to fill Jimmy K's shoes?

    By Blogger Simon Pole, at 10:40 p.m.  

  • I'm hoping Youth For Volpe will contribute to our wedding.

    By Blogger Jacques Beau Vert, at 11:18 p.m.  

  • Even if they don't, I'm sure Joe will be kind enough to bring some pizza!

    By Blogger The Frog Lady, at 11:43 p.m.  

  • Sounds like somebody is playing politics to me.

    These guys will stop at nothing, to get attention and to speak out both sides of their mouth.

    We'll see how far Jimmy K actually goes. I imagine he's on a very short leash.

    By Blogger S.K., at 12:39 a.m.  

  • No big deal at all. The 35,000 people that joined the Volpe team did not join because of Jimmy K, but because they were inspired by the vision that Joe Volpe is laying out for the Liberal Party and for Canada.

    Volpe will shrug this off like he has all the other trash thrown in his direction by the elites in the Liberal Party that can't stand a strong outsider like Volpe challanging them for control over the party.

    By Blogger A Toronto Liberal, at 3:57 a.m.  

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    By Blogger The Rat, at 12:52 p.m.  

  • The only problem with this mess for you Liberals is, well, either way you read it, it stinks. You need Volpe gone to try to get rid of the sleaze factor but the reason you might lose Volpe is sleazy.

    Apparently Jimmy K has been recruiting hard in the Arab community and made promises that Volpe's support of Israel jeapordized. So now Jimmy K might move his ethnic bloc to another camp as long as that camp toes the anti-Israel line. Sweet. Another example of sleazy ethno-politics for the Liberal party to wear. You guys can't win for losing.

    By Blogger The Rat, at 12:53 p.m.  

  • I think Toronto Liberal is exactly right.

    Joe Volpe is a dynamic outsider that the Liberal establishment is trying silence because his bold vision is going to shake loss the nation and unleash a wallop of creative energy.

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 12:54 p.m.  

  • loose, not loss. sorry.

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 12:55 p.m.  

  • The 35,000 people that joined the Volpe team did not join because of Jimmy K, but because they were inspired by the vision that Joe Volpe is laying out for the Liberal Party and for Canada.

    I bet 3/4 of them couldn't pick him out of a police line-up.

    By Blogger Reality Bites, at 5:08 p.m.  

  • What if everyone who 'knows better' is wrong and the reasonable people who understand that members beget delegates are right and Volpe's team brings a whole bunch to Montreal?

    I still am trying to filter through the partisan bs to figure out whether some of the people debating this leadership on-line and in blogs are really giving informed commentary or are the ones doing this party harm by attacking on nothing.

    By Blogger RedMapleLeaf, at 8:57 p.m.  

  • How is Volpe not a bottomfeeder? This guy is TERRIBLE. What do people see in him?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:29 p.m.  

  • Well, if I were a cynical type (I am) and was aware of the type of characters who inhabit the Liberal Party of today (I am) I would say Joe knew he would never be the actually LEADER of the party...but he definitely thinks he deserves to have some influence. In fact, I bet JOE VOLPE wants this influence as a simple form of self-defence. Who knows what the Conservatives and the RCMP (those who aren't on the Liberal payroll that is) will find when the investigations are complete. I wonder what kind of sleaze Volpe has been involved with since he's been a LIBERAL MP. I bet old Joe is simply trying to be in a position that allows him to hide evidence, or deflect attention when we see what certain members of the Mafia, er, I mean the Liberal Party have been getting away with.

    Joe's scared, and that makes him dangerous. Watch out CG...old Joe may pull a few rabbits out of his hat yet. Of course...that observation just may be the cynic in me. No proof yet....but wait for it.
    A man is innocent until proven guilty....even a Liberal one. Of course......there are hundreds of elementary school kids lining up to make a contribution to Joe's Defence fund should it be required.


    By Blogger James Halifax, at 6:17 p.m.  

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