Results for People
One hundred days in, let's take a look at the results Jack has generated. Since, as a Liberal, I might be somewhat partisan, I'll let a completely unbiased person judge the results for people achieved by this government. This completely unbiased person will be...Jack Layton.
Results for People
1. A "made in the Oil Patch" environmental program which has killed Kyoto and "abandoned the environment".
2. Nothing to create a National Child Care program.
3. "Nothing for EI, precious little for training." In short, Canadians have been given "a lost opportunity for working families".
4. A budget with "nothing for post-secondary education". This country will be full of "empty libraries because students won't be able to afford to use them".
5. An "arrogant and rigid" approach to Canada-US relations, leading to a "rather dramatic extension of military integration with the United States".
6. Massive corporate tax cuts; "an imprudent action that takes us closer to a deficit".
I'd say the Liberal TV ads meant to appeal to NDP voters next election are going to write themselves. Or, more precisely, Jack Layton is currently writing them.
And if he can't talk about "results for people" or name drop "Ed Broadbent" eight times a day, Jack's going to need a new pitch to keep the Liberal votes he "borrowed" last time.
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There seems to be this general consensus from Liberals that the NDP single handedly installed the Conservative government.
I'm sure that the previous caucus of nineteen NDP MPs would have loved to have had the power to change governments at will.
Unfortunately, the fact is that Canadian voters were the ones who put the current government in their seats. The very same group of voters chose to give the Liberals some time in the opposition benches.
I bet Jack Layton would have loved to have input into the budget so that he could have gotten results for people. Apparently, only the Liberals allow that to happen.
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Nick, at 7:34 p.m.
Hmmmm... One of my NDP friends and two NDP campaign workers (one on the phone and oneat my door) urged me to vote Conservative if I wasn't going to vote NDP because the Liberals were far worse neocons and needed to be removed from government. I'd say that's pretty pro-active re electing the government we got. BTW - thanks for the commentary CG.
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Anonymous, at 7:39 p.m.
Ottawanick,
The Conservative budget does have results for people, just different results than what Jack Layton wanted.
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eastern capitalist, at 7:40 p.m.
Please Read the Fine Print
Well, I was writing this note on the budget which I wanted share with you and I wanted to provide the link to the Finance Department and guess what, someone pulled the plug. Go figure how can they (Government) expect us who live away from government access facilities expect to get our information. Does any one know what happen to the Finance Department Web Site?
The Conservatives mentioned yesterday that this budget will give you tax breaks however the way I read it the only way you can get a break is by spending more. I have just one question: where will the money come from? Tax Credits are reimbursed only when Personal Tax Returns are filed. Meanwhile what do I do, will I have to borrow money to get my kids in sports or buy a buss pass?
Last November’s Liberal Economic Statement gave everyone a reduction of 1% on their basic tax rate (from 16% to 15%) money in our pockets. Now the Conservatives will increase this rate to 15.5% July 1st by the way, this translates to 15.25% for 2006 but wait, that’s not all, basic personal exemptions increased to $9,039 January 1st 2006 (again more money in our pockets) unfortunately as of July 1st this is rolled back.
But, how about those famous tax credits you say?
If you’re a worker, you’ll get a tax credit of $1,000 (or) at 15.25% for 2006 that’s $152.50 but first you got to pay the bills.
If you’re a pensioner you’ll see your pension exemption increased from $1,000 to $2,000 again a saving or $152.50.
But wait, that’s not all, there’s more!
If you’re a student you get a $520 tax credit for text books. At 15.25% that’s $79.20 for 2006. I don’t know about you but the last time I purchased a University text book I paid a lot more than $80.00 for a single book. Oh yea, you’ll be able to borrow more through student loans.
And, that’s not all; there’s more!
If you have kids age17 and under registered in organized sports, you get yet one more tax credit; $500 each child. That sounds good, right? There’s only one catch, you first got to pay the bills. Have you read the fine print on this one too? The administration proposed by the Government for this is going to be through the roof. We all know that most sport organizations are run by volunteers now do you know what these hard working volunteers will have to do extra? They’ll have to issue official tax receipts, maintain official records and notify Canada Revenue Agency with all this information, and all that for a savings of up to $76.25 per child for 2006. Do you think it’s going to be easy for parents to get this tax credit? You should read all the restrictions, parents are going to have to jump through loops in order to qualify. Oh, and they better jump with their kids!
How about this $100 per month allowance for each child under 6? (At last, money in our pockets you say) But wait, this money will be taxed as income to the spouse in the lower tax bracket, normally the stay at home mom. Now if this is her only income she want pay tax but now, because of this income she’ll find her personal exemption reduced by $1,200 and you know what, her husband will see her tax exemption on his tax return reduced by amount. Now, do you think he’ll be happy paying more taxes? I don’t think so.
To some of you it may sound like I’m just complaining about the budget tabled by the Conservatives yesterday and yes you’re right. Big deal, we get to see our GST reduced by 1%. Now unless you’re a big spender and buy big ticket items who will notice a penny less on a candy bar? Do you honestly think Convenience Stores will reduce their candy bars and chips by a penny? I don’t think so. If you currently pay $1.25 for a candy bar it will stay the same, where’s the big saving? Yea I know, the Liberals with their popcorn and beer fiasco during the last election but you know what they weren’t that far out, only the timing was wrong and it made for bad press.
Now, this brings me back to my opening comments. Who pulled the plug on the Finance Department Web Site? Is someone trying to control what the general public has access to? You know, these Conservatives are getting to be “Masters” in controlling information going out. And, this I didn’t make that up!
Oh, one last thing, I’m a Tax Accountant and since yesterday I’m smiling. I can’t hardly wait until next year when I’ll get to file all these tax returns for my clients and how much more I’ll be able to charge them because of the extra work with all these receipts for buss passes, sport registrations, tools etc…but what the heck, they’ll save 1% on their GST!
And to think that people voted for changes! Ah well, until the next time.
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C. Steamer, at 8:07 p.m.
Jack's going to need a new pitch to keep the Liberal votes he "borrowed" last time.
I think Jack's going to need a new pitch just to keep his job. Daily, Layton comes across as a chirping irrelevance in the corner of the House. Dropping Broadbent's name eight times a day is only reminding the party faithful of the mistake they made nominating him leader.
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Omar, at 8:07 p.m.
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C. Steamer, at 8:08 p.m.
It's clear the NDP will join the Rhinoceros Party in oblivion or be absorbed into the LPC in the next 5-8 years.
Let's take a look at some of Harper's "Made in the USA" ideas:
Questioning Judges: Boy was that little get-together at tax-payer's expense so userful
Tough on Crime: Money save on gun registry diverted to federal prisons for inmate housing. Impact on crime rates - still no correlation after 40 years of studies.
$20 Billion Tax Relief over 2 years: Throwing a bunch of money into the system at a rate faster than the system's growth doesn't mean any real money for Canadians. It means inflation. (But it's good politics, I admit.)
Ignoring Kyoto: Well, Harper's asthma will let him know how good an idea that was next time he's in smog-infested GTA on a 30 celcius July day.
Yeah, what a great idea it was to bring down a corrupt but progressive government in favor of a neo-con government! It's not fantastic, it's fantabulous.
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Dr.Winston Chan, chiropraticien, at 8:53 p.m.
I think your stretching a bit here, or perhaps roadtesting some new partisan attacks on the NDP.
The Liberals defeated themselves, so there's no need to blame the NDP. Or quite simply, the Conservatives beat the Liberals. So leave the sour grapes at home.
People who voted NDP instead of Liberal last time, obviously couldn't stomach supporting the grits anymore, so voted for a different party. Some people in the last two elections are also new supporters or supportes who came back after their era of alienation ended in BC and Ontario.
Part of the renewal of the Liberal Party should be looking in the mirror, not blaming other parties, such as the NDP.
Plus, the NDP only increased their support by 2% since the 2004 election while the Conservatives went up by 6%. So, who really borrowed the big chuck of the Liberal vote? Hmmm?
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bza, at 9:09 p.m.
Also, I don't know what kind of koolaid the Liberals are sipping if they think that their defeat could have been avoided if the NDP continued to prop them up.
What about Goodale? Brison? The horrible campaign?
I don't think there's anyway the NDP could have proped up the Liberals enough to save themselves. Their days were numbered. It was just a matter of time.
Besides, its not the job of the NDP to prop up faux progressive gov'ts.
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bza, at 9:13 p.m.
off topic
Now here is a government that gets things done FAST:
the website is already up for parents to apply for their $1200.00
http://www.universalchildcare.ca/
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wilson, at 9:52 p.m.
You're stretching here CG.... the Liberal meme that the NDP helped elect the current government is really desperate.
I know you guys are worried about the NDP gaining more traction and challenging the Libs for the center-left vote, but come on - at least attack them on their ideas, don't invent cheap strawmen to beat up.
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Andrew, at 9:53 p.m.
You've truly become a right whinger's best friend, Bart.
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Robert McClelland, at 10:21 p.m.
"a corrupt but progressive government"
????
I think the Liberal Party is going to need to find a slightly better slogan than that one. Unless you want to campaign on a promise that for every $20 used to fund childcare, only $1 will go to the Liberal Party and its friends.
Actually I hope the Liberals do that cause the blog from Jason Cherniak justifying the tiny amount stolen would be amusing!
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polarslam, at 10:24 p.m.
Uhm, Martin promised there would be an election in February. What makes you think you could have won in February what you lost in January?
If you don't, would you stop being a sore loser and blaming the NDP's very existence for your party's failures? Picking on my party will not get your party my vote. Thank you very much.
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LeoPetr, at 10:27 p.m.
Ouch.. burned by his own words.. poor Jack.
I won't comment on the substance of the budget but kudos to CG for taking Jack's words and pushing them back in his face.
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Eric, at 10:55 p.m.
Maybe if you Liberals hadn't been running a directionless, corrupt government and hadn't royally fucked up your election campaign, your party would have more seats.
Stop blaming the NDP for your own incompetence. Even if the NDP hadn't gained a single seat, you still wouldn't have enough seats to form a government.
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Dave T., at 11:25 p.m.
Maybe if you Liberals hadn't been running a directionless, corrupt government and hadn't royally fucked up your election campaign, your party would have more seats.
Stop blaming the NDP for your own incompetence. Even if the NDP hadn't gained a single seat, you still wouldn't have enough seats to form a government.
HAHAHAHA...well said! That should pretty much end discussion on this particular post! New topic SVP!
Thanks, BFHD ;)
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Omar, at 11:39 p.m.
Oh that is rich, calling the site "universal childcare". What universe do these people live in?
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Steve V, at 11:42 p.m.
Liberals and the ND's must learn to love one another and unite to defeat the neo-con scourge in the next election. If Layton is to lead us and be PM then so be it. If the left continues to bicker and back bite then who knows how long HArper will have to destroy the nation?
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decoin, at 12:41 a.m.
What universe do these people live in?
The one were every person with a child under six is treated the same, as in including, relating to, or affecting all members of the class or group under consideration. This would also be known as "universal"
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eastern capitalist, at 1:01 a.m.
Now, now. I never said the Liberals didn't deserve to be defeated last election. Or that the NDP caused their defeat. After the campaign the Liberals ran, it's hard to blame anyone for voting NDP.
I'm just saying that the "results for people" thing is a prime target for the Liberals to go after Layton on next election.
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calgarygrit, at 1:45 a.m.
Killed Kyoto? Other than dollars cut, can you actually say how we are any further away from our Kyoto targets? Stopping spending on a plan that anyone with any intellectual honesty was calling hopeless last summer is not killing Kyoto, it is cleaning up a hypocritical mess.
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OttawaCon, at 2:05 a.m.
It pains me to think of what won't happen because the government fell. Kelowna Accord down the drain. Kyoto Accord down the drain. Sigh.
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Shawn, at 3:33 a.m.
Im pained that the Liberals only saw fit act left wing only after the Conservatives stopped supporting them.
Im pained that the Liberals are still trying to act like they are anything than far right conservatives who lie about it during the month before an election.
Im pained that the liberals passed far right budget after far right budget. Martin gave tax cuts that manning and Harper could only dream of.
If only the NDP (who did not have enough votes anyway) had only waited three more months of daily scandal then the NDP could have saved the day!
The NDP should have latched itself to the Liberals for as long as possible because it would have been a good thing for leftists to be strongly identified with this far right (economically) and scandal ridden party? Is that the argument? The NDP are as much to blame for the budget of the right wing conservatives as we were for all the right wing budgets of the Liberals.
This budget is not any more right wing than the typical Liberal budget and its a hell of a lot less right wing than plenty of past Liberal budgets.
Nothing could be more clear than the evil NDP stopping the white knight leftist of the liberal party. Is this the new Liberal rallying cry?
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davidt, at 4:21 a.m.
eastern capitalist
Maybe it should be re-named "universally inadequate childcare" then, just to be factual. Is universal health care taxed?
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Steve V, at 8:34 a.m.
With all due respect to Jack and his LibDP voters, had Harper implemented Kyoto it wouldn't have helped the environment, the effects of GHG emissions aren't a local phenomenon. And there was some cool stuff for students (no more tax on scholarships and recognition of textbooks as an education cost: hardly rocket science, but the Libs wouldn't go there). And, in the words of Jeff Simpson, we need more corporate tax cuts to bring us down to the OECD average (I actually don't agree with this last point, but anyways).
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matt, at 10:04 a.m.
Jack will soon learn that the voters he "borrowed" are coming due and there's a huge interest payment attached to that.
Ted
Cerberus
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Ted Betts, at 10:12 a.m.
You would almost think Layton was Prime Minister. It has a nice ring, I must admit. Given that Layton will be up against one of the 10 dwarfs (Dopey, Sleazy, Sleepy, Forgetful, Doleful, Baleful, Crazy, Creepy, Lazy and Doc), I don't think he has much to worry about.
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Greg, at 11:02 a.m.
"Results for people" will just slip into same memory hole as Beanie Babies and Dayglo socks.
You can expect the NDP to gravitate to another meme, unless they find another unprincipled, corrupt gov't frightened willing to do just about anything to avoid facing the electorate.
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Anonymous, at 11:02 a.m.
Oh, leave it to McClelland to be a pointless jerk as usual.
You're right, Bart, but what plagues the Liberals is a bigger problem than what Jack faces, methinks.
That said, I'm pretty astonished at the NDP's inability to make any significant gains in popular support, especially on election day. Everyone droned on forever about the inability of the right to be credible, get it together, moderate themselves, present a reasonable alternative etc etc, but really, the big story is the NDP's inability to do all of the above. They really are truly radical left-wingers, combining a toxic mixture of knee-jerk anti-Americanism, economic illiteracy and tried-and-debunked ideas. When are they going to "move to the middle", like the Tories did?
I mean, 29 seats? That's less than 10%. Talk about embarassing.
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ALW, at 11:13 a.m.
The word "Grit" in your header looks NDP orange.
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Michael Fox, at 11:30 a.m.
Calgary Grit wrote:
"Now, now. I never said the Liberals didn't deserve to be defeated last election. Or that the NDP caused their defeat. After the campaign the Liberals ran, it's hard to blame anyone for voting NDP."
Then by all standards, it shouldn't be a surprise that someone preferred to switch from Liberal to Conservative, or does that fact mean that some Liberals are also to blame?
CG continued:
"I'm just saying that the "results for people" thing is a prime target for the Liberals to go after Layton on next election. "
Read Warren Kinsella's column in today's National Post Grit. He summs it up nicely, and you can see exactly what the Liberals REALLY hate about this budget. Harper scored...big time.
For exmaple:
Child-Care: The Liberals had 13 years, and did nothing. They created no spaces...just paper work and extra beaurocracy. If the Liberals really cared about UNIVERSAL care...they would have started at the beginning of their first mandate, not in the dying days of their last one. The Libs didn't do it for the same reasons the Conservatives WON'T do it. It's too expensive, and the benefits only apply to those in the largest urban centres of Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver..etc..etc....all Liberal strongholds. (for now)
The real reason the Liberals hate this child care policy is simple. Every single Canadian with kids under 6 years, will have tangible evidence that Harper has kept his promise, and provided a REAL benefit, not some pie-in-the-sky promise he had no intention of keeping. That's what irks the Libs....they never thought of it first.
Kelowna: Unless reading comprehension is a problem for the Libs, they would see that the money offered in the budget is ON TOP OF what the Liberals offered for years. The Kelowna Acccord is like the Child care thingy....big words, but NO REAL INTENTION of following through. Written in haste, no direction, no costing....just the ability to announce 5.3 BILLION FOR ABORIGINALS. Of course, if the money is going to be pissed away and unaccountable...so be it. If it would get a Liberal in power, no price is too high.
Face it Grit.......Harper's budget is very popular, that's why Liberals and NDP oppose it.
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James Halifax, at 11:36 a.m.
A propos of nothing in this thread, this article suggests Kennedy's French is poor. True?
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=db88e7bf-dea4-422d-9b9d-088a6cb11272
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matt, at 11:40 a.m.
Poppet, I'm sorry, but I'm deeply disappointed in how absolutely ineffectual the Liberal governments were for 13 years. I've accomplished more in a season!
Mr. Layton is a silly fool, but you're more the fool for wasting your time fretting about his votes.
The Liberals have an excellent and sporting chance at taking back government, provided this much-vaunted "renewal" comes to pass.
Vexation over Jack Layton's absolute foolishness isn't "renewal".
The criticism rest entirely on the shoulders of the Liberal governments, not Layton's, nor Harper's. They dogged it all up by throwing years away to the locusts while they ruled unopposed and unchallenged, and then failed to get their house back into fighting shape when their challengers were united once more.
Heal thyselves, politicians.
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Lois, at 11:48 a.m.
... and then failed to get their house back into fighting shape when their challengers were united once more.
Which was exacerbated by vicious in house feuding. The Martin-Chretien war will have dire consequences in terms of the years the Liberals will now sit in opposition. With their traditional power base in Quebec pretty much snuffed, the Liberal party desperately needs a leader who will reconnect with La Belle Province. Where is the heart of the Big Red Machine gonna beat, Toronto? Calgary? Ppphhhttt...
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Omar, at 12:13 p.m.
Bart, the reason people read this blog is that, although you are a Liberal - you don't come off as a partisan shill. Until this post.
Come on, your better than this.
On the substance of the post, people hold government's to their election promises, not opposition parties. If they didn't we would be all over the Liberals for the fact we don't have a national daycare program. Oh wait, the Libs had years to put that into effect to.
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Art, at 12:20 p.m.
James Halifax; Yeah, popular budget. See my post directly bellow this.
pink; I don't neccesarily agree with all of Layton's criticisms, but if he makes it clear that the NDP couldn't accomplish anything during this minority parliament, it's going to be harder to get left wing Liberal votes next time around.
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calgarygrit, at 12:25 p.m.
Left wing Liberals?
Do you mean the people who only care about what the Liberals say as opposed to what Liberals do.
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davidt, at 12:41 p.m.
Davidt, if you honestly think the Liberals are far-right, Harper with a majority is going to give you a heart attack.
That said, his attacks on the Libs contain a basic truth: the Libs took their left flank for granted, and both the NDP and Tories know it.
Jack's not about "results for people", and he never was: that was just a line he needed to use as a party leader who couldn't possibly be PM under the current system. Jack's about one thing: squeezing out the Liberal party and taking over the Canadian left, so that when people finally get sick of Harper trying to make over Canada into Wyoming, he (or his successor) can be Canada's Tony Blair.
James: The Liberals oppose the budget because that's their job. The NDP opposes it because it cloaks the Tories' elitist agenda in pseudo-populist trifles. Smart people oppose it because $1200 a year for child care is insulting.
(And since when does day care have to happen in a city? If you're living in a tiny village in northern BC that might be a problem, but even a small town can open a day care centre.)
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Demosthenes, at 1:07 p.m.
Demosthenes wrote:
"James: The Liberals oppose the budget because that's their job."
No, they oppose it because it shows the average voting Canadian that at least ONE political party keeps its promises.
Demo continued:
" The NDP opposes it because it cloaks the Tories' elitist agenda in pseudo-populist trifles."
No, they oppose it because it allows people to MAKE THEIR OWN decisions without the benefit of Government assisstance. As any good NDP'er knows......Government knows best, because basically, Canadians aren't up to the task of making their own decisions without socialist assistance.
Then this:
"Smart people oppose it because $1200 a year for child care is insulting."
No...what's insulting is having a political party promise to help parents for 13 years, and doing nothing. And if getting $1200 a year is insulting, then how offensive is getting nothing?
it goes on:
"(And since when does day care have to happen in a city? If you're living in a tiny village in northern BC that might be a problem, but even a small town can open a day care centre.)"
The Liberal Plan promised Universal daycare for all correct? What happens in Northern towns, with small populations. Are we going to build a day care centre in every place we find parents? Some of those places are pretty small...populations measured in the double digits. Will we have a daycare worker from Toronto willing to fly up there and live in the tundra because of her benevolence? I doubt it.
The Liberal plan was such a sham that even they knew it wouldn't work. THe only reason they promised it was to keep support in the cities, and steal NDP votes.
Proponents of the plan, are those who would benefit financially from the scheme, they don't give a rats ass about the kiddies.....they were looking to unionize, then get a huge pay increase.
Sorry....if you want a nurses salary, then go to nursing school. If you want to perform a job that any average 14 year old girl can do....then become a babysitter, but you can expect the same wages.Don't expect me to pay for it.
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James Halifax, at 1:59 p.m.
Actually, Demosthenes, I have to agree with the poster before me - I don't consider $1200 a year insulting when compared to 13 years of nothing.
But that's just a tiny nitpick is all. :)
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Lois, at 4:29 p.m.
Congratulations on beating up the fourth party in the House. Can you do the Bloc next?
It's great stuff for demonstrating how Harper is getting his agenda through the House and steamrolling the socialists.
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RGM, at 5:13 p.m.
It's great stuff for demonstrating how Harper is getting his agenda through the House and steamrolling the socialists.
How does somebody who declares himself a Master's candidate at Dalhousie University while studying Political Science and specializing in American Foreign Policy make the ludicrous statement that there are Socialists "to steamroll" in the Canadian Parliament? Not even the NDP(a so- called Worker's Party), let alone the Liberals, qualify as Socialist in the true sense of the ideology. Unbelievable.
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Omar, at 10:02 p.m.
"Davidt, if you honestly think the Liberals are far-right, Harper with a majority is going to give you a heart attack."
Simular to the heart attacks I got when the Liberals had a majority?
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davidt, at 11:27 p.m.
No, they oppose it because it allows people to MAKE THEIR OWN decisions without the benefit of Government assisstance. As any good NDP'er knows......Government knows best, because basically, Canadians aren't up to the task of making their own decisions without socialist assistance.
Yes, that's right - the NDP hates people making their own decisions. They just want to control what people say, especially to the media. Although, come to think of it, I can think of at least one politician with severe micro-managing tendencies who has evidently restricted his cabinet from using their best judgement, leaving them with vapid talking points. Hmm.
In any case, you've really dropped the ball on this one, Bart. The Liberals entirely responsible for their recent difficulties. I'm interested to know, for example, how the NDP is responsible for the Liberals' collapse in Quebec, or just which Liberal voters lended their votes to the NDP (if there were any, there weren't many). But, please, keep going down this strategy of blaming the NDP for everything. All it will do is further emphasize that Liberals stand for nothing.
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JG, at 4:19 p.m.
Omar,
Thanks for dropping by the blog and C/P'ing the bio. It's tongue-in-cheek, friend, and not meant to be taken literally. It's quicker, easier, and more pithy than "social democrats," and harkens back to an equally tongue-in-cheek scorecard a friend emailed with the election results spelling out the respective totals for "Fascists, Crooks, Separatists, and Socialists."
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