Sunday, December 10, 2006

They Live Among Us

While Ezra Levant and Pat Martin have raised objections to Stephane Dion's dual French-Canadian citizenship because they don't like the optics, I think people may be missing the larger picture here. I don't want to alarm anyone, but after minutes of sleuthing and deductive reasoning, I've reach some very disturbing conclusions. Consider the following:

Before being named GG, our current head of state had dual French-Canadian citizenship. If recent polls are to be believed, our next Prime Minister has dual French-Canadian citizenship. Hell, the star goalie for the Montreal Canadiens is a French citizen. And, assuming nothing has changed since I was in High School, French Immersion students across Canada are still being subjected to the complete works of Gerard Depardieu.

Add it all up and there's only one logical conclusion to be reached - a French invasion from within. We've known for a while that the French were out to get us - we all remember how the French figure skating judge tried to rob Sale and Pelletier of the gold in Salt Lake City. While their motive is still unclear (unlimited syrup for their French toast perhaps?), their intentions appear obvious. I call on all Canadians to hunt down your friends and neighbours with French citizenship and force them to renounce their dual citizenship. Only then can we truly be safe from this growing (bleu, blanc, et) rouge menace.



    By Blogger Jason Townsend, at 2:02 PM  

  • Civilization screenshot, nice.

    By Blogger A BCer in Toronto, at 2:17 PM  

  • I was searching the blog rings for a potential list of cabinet in Alberta this week and a pretty good one is at, even if he supports that nutbar Ted Morton.

    By Blogger Sebastian Parker, at 2:57 PM  



    By Blogger Antonio, at 4:01 PM  

  • CG/DA/BR/etc.: I think it was imperative for the GG to reounce her citizenship. You ought not to be the head of state, the person who exercises the royal prerogative, when you have, or have the appearance of, allegiances and obligations to another state. The same argument holds true for a prime minister, if to a lesser degree. I don't question Dion's patriotism, but if our legal and ethical systems place a heavy emphasis on the *appearance* of impartiality and of conflicts of interest, I see no reason why that should not be the case politically. The Canadian public is welcome to place its trust in Dion's character, but he shouldn't be surprised that a dual citizenship for someone aspiring to the top job in the country provokes some controversy.

    By Blogger matt, at 6:00 PM  

  • ...but if our legal and ethical systems place a heavy emphasis on the *appearance* of impartiality and of conflicts of interest, I see no reason why that should not be the case politically.

    Is it actually illegal or unethical to appear to be in a conflict of interest? I'm not sure about the former (although I suspect not), but I'd argue that the latter is definitely not the case. I'd say that the problem with such an appearance per se is purely a political issue, one that in this case some people are trying to exploit.

    By Blogger Dale, at 6:22 PM  

  • (bleu, blanc, et) rouge menace

    That's it - I'm starry-eyed. I'm agog. Aswoon. You've ascended to Greatness at last.

    By Blogger Jason Bo Green, at 7:44 PM  

  • matt says it's imperative for the head of state not to have allegiances or obligations to another state. ¿What about the Queen? ¿Isn't she the head of state? She's not even dually a Canadian citizen.
    I don't believe that Dion should give up his French citizenship, and I was upset that Michaëlle Jean had to. Using the argument that a leader of our country must only be loyal to Canada is hogwash, especially considering that our ultimate head of state is far more connected to the United Kingdom than Canada. Up until 1952, the Governor Generals weren't even Canadian at all. I don't believe that Canadian law should ever force someone to give up their citizenship, especially if it is something they acquired by birth.

    By Blogger Juan David, at 11:32 PM  

  • Dale: to answer your question and flesh out what I was getting at, the Supreme Court of Canada, referring to a number of codes of legal ethics, has set the test for disqualifying a lawyer or judge/other decision maker as whether a reasonable apprehension of bias exists. I argue that we should demand no less of our law-makers than our law-interpreters. I don't think that a reasonable apprehension of bias will necessarily exist in respect of Dion occupying the Prime Minister's office as a French citizen, but the possibility is always there, and therefore I think the criticism is justified. My argument for the Governor General could follow much the same lines but, more fundamentally, being subject to another nation's laws is by definition antithetical to being a Sovereign (or representative of). This is very Hobbes, to the extent that's valid, but I think there's something to it.

    Juan: Legally the Queen is the Queen of Canada and as such is not only not a British Citizen, but not (despite being the same physical person) the same Sovereign as Britain has. Canada and the other Dominions in the Statute of New Westminister adopted the same line of succession to the Crown as Britain, but that is not the same as adopting the British Crown as our Crown, despite the fact that our Crown is our Crown because that person is the British Crown.

    Furthermore, tradition, history, form of government and to a large extent blood, language and legal system bind us to Britain in a way unlike any other country.

    By Blogger matt, at 1:29 AM  

  • As if it weren't bad enough that Dion has more than one citizenship now we find out that MR. SuperGreen also drives an SUV, one of the more poluting vehicles on the road.

    Oh sure, he named his dog Kyoto for appearance sake and he talks a good line but when you look closely he doesn't even start to practice what he preaches. And while the excuse for him doing "squat" as enviro minister is that he was only in that portfolio for a year and 1/2 he's been driving this gas guzzling, emmision spewing beast for 5 years.

    Can you say HYPOCRISY boys and girls.

    By Blogger Fred Mc, at 3:00 AM  

  • I argue that we should demand no less of our law-makers than our law-interpreters.

    That's all you needed to say! You win - you've got me there. I agree now.

    Dion drives an SUV???!!! WTF?!?! Is he crazy? Forget about the hypocrisy - you'd think a politician would be wary enough of image to know better. Ugh.... that alone makes me swing towards Harper. At least his money is where his mouth is.

    Nothing on google about Dion's SUV - any help, guys?

    By Blogger Jason Bo Green, at 8:52 AM  

  • I have heard that Harper has taken to travelling in Presidential style motorcades with multiple limousines.

    This SUV thing is news to me.

    I 'm guessing people are throwing mud to see what sticks.

    By Blogger Down & Out in L A, at 12:22 PM  

  • down & out: "presidential motorcades" I seem to recall the last PM using more than one car to get around, but that was not "presidential"? I'm pretty sure Tony Blair has a motorcade, as do pretty much ALL leaders of countries, but because the PM is now a Conservative, his motorcade is "presidential"?

    Give your head a shake.

    By Blogger Candace, at 3:03 PM  

  • And it looks like he had an SUV while Environment minister:

    "To do Ottawa-Montreal with my personal Forester Subaru it will cost my family almost $40. When I take the ministerial Toyota Prius it costs the government $11. Canada is late in these new technologies."

    By Blogger Candace, at 3:19 PM  

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    By Blogger Down & Out in L A, at 3:51 PM  

  • Candace, I would suggest that you take your own advice.

    The Subaru Forrester compares favourably for gas milage with other small SUVs. Go check comparisons with Honda CR-V, Toyota Rav 4, Ford Escape and Nissan X-Trail.

    We aren't talking Ford Expedition, Lincoln Navigator or Cadillac SUV here. Get Real!

    Harper added a MASSIVE black Chevy Tahoe to his huge motorcade this past spring.

    The motorcade is used for short trips across town.

    Here is the reference.

    Please cut and paste.

    HYPOCRITES : Your names are Candace and Fred Mc

    By Blogger Down & Out in L A, at 3:54 PM  

  • The "Religious Right" out here in Alberta seem to be catching on too

    Read all the way down the page

    By Blogger Down & Out in L A, at 4:26 PM  

  • Oh, you liberals are in denial about Dion. Isn't it grand though? It’s like watching two lovers who are completely wrong for each other and everyone knows it but them.

    Shine on you crazy diamond.

    By Blogger PCmarkg, at 8:02 PM  

  • Why the hell isn't Napoleon the French leaderhead, like he should be, and like he was in Civilization I. Sid Meier is an absolute wuss - not only was Napoleon by far the greatest French emperor/president/king (and embodiment of what Civilization is all about), but he wasn't even a bad guy. He was a liberal benevolent dictator (in an age when outright democracy was more like mobocracy).

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    By Blogger Askinstoo, at 9:05 PM  

  • down & out - your cut & paste re Harper's new wheels doesn't work. Do you have a "cache" link or is it the same as your later link (down the page)?

    From the 2nd link, the date is May 22.

    From CBC:

    "On May 29, days before the arrests, the deputy director of CSIS, Jack Hooper appeared before the Senate defence committee, where he addressed the possibility of "home-grown terrorists" in Canada.

    "We know who and where some of them are," he told the committee."

    Gee. A week prior to this, the RCMP add a "military-looking" vehicle to the motorcade. Coincidence? Didn't the "parliament hill" plan include beheading the PM? Hmmmm...

    NOPE. He's trying to look like Bush, you are sooooo right.

    Oh. And though I am from Alberta and consider myself a Christian (although I only attend church sporadically at best), I would not consider myself part of the "religious right" nor do I get my talking points from them. I tend to make them up myself, as I go along, on an issue by issue basis.

    By Blogger Candace, at 1:37 AM  

  • matt:
    I don't find your argument concerning the Queen convincing. She may not be a British citizen in her position as Canadian sovereign, but she is still a British citizen and not by any means a Canadian one. If you're claiming that the position of Canadian sovereign is somehow inherently Canadian (or non British Citizen), then I don't understand why the position of prime minister wouldn't be. At least Dion is a Canadian citizen. If people want there to be an exclusively Canadian-citizen rule for the prime minister, then the Constitution would have to be changed. I think it would be an awful idea, but good luck with that. I don't think that the United States has a rule about dual citizenship for its president.

    French Canada has a strong bond of tradition, history, blood, language, and legal system to France. In fact French Canada has a stronger bond of blood and language to France than English Canada has to Britain.

    I find either of these bonds irrelevant in deciding whether a Canadian leader, be it sovereign, head of state or prime minister, should be allowed to maintain dual citizenship bestowed by birth, though. Whether someone is also the citizen of another country should be irrelevant to their being prime minister of Canada.

    By Blogger Juan David, at 12:41 PM  

  • Big motorcades, complete with huge gas guzzling SUVs, to drive a few blocks is very Bush.

    The cut & paste link works for me.

    I'll post it separately if you are interested.

    My point is that the "Dion is a hypocrite comments" are way off the mark.

    Conservatives should "take the wood out of their own eye" before accusing others of hypocrisy or of being environmental criminals, as the religious site suggests.

    By Blogger Down & Out in L A, at 7:34 AM  

  • Matt says there should be no reasonable apprehension that our PM could be biased. Right. That's exactly why Dion should hold on to his French citizenship. Otherwise there might be the apprehension that he is biased in favour of Canada. I'm serious. Canadians are not inherently more worthy or deserving of respect than anyone else. I want political leaders who will stand impartially for justice and fairness. If Canadian citizens or businesses are trampling on the rights of people from other countries, I hope our political leaders will side with the foreigners. The only time it's appropriate to cheer for Canada over other countries is when it's a sports event, and as long as Bobby Clarke or Todd Bertuzzi isn't involved.

    By Blogger Aeolus, at 1:32 PM  

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