Wednesday, June 14, 2006


SES has the provincial Liberals up by 8 points in Ontario:

Lib - 43%
PC - 35%
NDP - 17%

On a similar note, the Toronto Star is talking about the role the nuclear power debate may play in the next election. While it may have cost Arnie Vinnick an election, I tend to think coming out strongly against nuclear power would be a mistake for either McGuinty or Tory. It's cheaper (albeit, with big start up costs), cleaner, and safer than almost every alternative energy source. The only drawback I see is that it'd lead to a drop in Canada's valuable carbon dioxide which I like to call life.

UPDATE: The Toronto Sun has the Tories up 37-35.


  • Geez, you almost gave me a heart attack. I first saw the numbers and thought it was a federal poll.

    Don't scare me like that man! ;)

    By Blogger BL, at 12:46 p.m.  

  • The Toronto Sun released a poll today, saying the opposite, that the Tories were in the lead in Ontario or at least in a statiscal tie:

    By Blogger Bailey, at 1:10 p.m.  

  • SES has traditionally been a much more accurate poller. I would put more credence in this poll than a Sun poll.

    By Blogger Kyle Olsen, at 1:17 p.m.  

  • I can't believe these two polls are out on the same day.

    By Blogger Hammering Jow, at 1:27 p.m.  

  • It was the meltdown that cost Vinnick when his earlier support of nuclear power and his refusal to back away from it after the incident became unpopular, but I still appreciate the West Wing reference.

    By Blogger Jeff, at 1:47 p.m.  

  • Bart,

    I should point out that Ontario's conservative party is not the "CPC" as they didnt opt to dispense with progressiveness.

    By Blogger KC, at 1:48 p.m.  

  • In all honesty, I don't know what any of these polls in Ontario tell us, especially since both parties have been within reach of each other for quite a while now.

    There is no narrative in Ontario politics at the moment, which means there is no ballot question developing as of yet.

    The opposite has been true federally for years, where the constant them since 2000 was this: Yeah, the Liberals kind of stink, but those other guys are "scary."

    The lack of anything controversial on the provincial seen is probably something McGuinty likes. However, I think his worry has to be that Tory can come along and offer something more substantive and productive than the middling we've seen from him.

    Let's also not forget, in the next election, the Ontario Tories will almost certainly run ads over and over again showing McGuinty swearing an oath that he would never raise taxes.

    If Tory can offer something better, Ontarians just might take it. The current polls don't account for any of these dynamics, because none of them are a part of this mid-term election cycle. That will change.

    By Blogger Dennis (Second Thots), at 2:01 p.m.  

  • The election is still over a year away, and John Tory hasn't even come out with any policy - polls mean nothing at this point.

    McGuinty's nuclear plan is a good idea. The CANDU reactors are the safest in the world, and if actually take a look at the facts, nuclear power is the only type of energy that has waste disposal included in the price. The amount of radioactive waste produced by a large nuclear reactor is small - only three square meters per year. If you compare that to the waste from coal, oil or the mountains of dead birds from windmills, nuclear is clearly the cleanest and most efficent power source avaliable.

    Unfortunately all the facts in the world won't stop the radical environmentalists from fighting it tooth and nail.

    By Blogger Unknown, at 2:42 p.m.  

  • The poll in the Sun was done by Market-Leger, a very respectable polling company which is also usually accurate I find.

    So both polls seeminly have merit... there was an Ipsos Reid poll last week which showed the tories ahead as well.

    By Blogger Forward Looking Canadian, at 3:29 p.m.  

  • As someone who has a vested interest in the successful implementation of more nuclear power take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt.

    I agree with Calgarygrit, nuclear power is possibly the safest and most reliable energy source out there. It doesn't need the sun to shine or the wind to blow, and although Canadian reactors are slightly less efficient than others, they do not have the possibility of 'meltdown' because they don't go hot enough.

    The PCs and Liberals are both on the right side of this issue with the NDP and Hampton fear mongering recklessly. However, better management of our current nuclear plants is needed.

    By Blogger Eric, at 5:02 p.m.  

  • I don't think Nuclear power will be an issue in the next election as both Tory and McGuinty will probably agree on the issue.

    Personally, I believe more nuclear is necessary, but we should try to find ways to incorporate more wind power where we can.

    I support the idea of winding down the coal plants - I'm dissappointed that this is one of the promises that McGuinty didn't keep. :(

    By Blogger Michael Fox, at 7:01 p.m.  

  • Darling Andrew, I'm a radical environmentalist and I completely agree with you! I support McGuinty's nuclear bid - he's the only politician in Canada serious about the environment right now.

    By Blogger Lois, at 11:20 p.m.  

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