Monday, January 30, 2006

Wow

I'm not sure I believe this, but if it's true, it will certainly shake the Liberal leadership race up quite a bit.

25 Comments:

  • Could it be that the Liberal debt looks like the National debt and the outlawing of large corporations,decieded WHO NEEDS THIS?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:07 PM  

  • We certainly need all the big names in the ring now:

    Heavy-hitters:
    -Dion
    -Manley (maybe he'll come back now?)
    -Rock
    -Ignatieff
    -Tobin
    -Cauchon

    Possibilities:
    -Kennedy
    -Rae
    -Bevilaqua (sp?)

    Long-shot influence peddlers:
    -Stronach
    -Stewart
    -Brison

    Realm of impossibility:
    -Warren Kinsella

    Perhaps this is a blessing? Was McKenna too close to Martin?

    A.L.
    lastcanadianexit.blogspot.com

    By Blogger A.L., at 12:08 PM  

  • Harper should consider immediately reappointing McKenna.

    OC

    By Blogger Alan, at 12:13 PM  

  • Wow - 10 of your 12 come from Ontario/Quebec. C'mon Calgary Grit, let's see at least one Westerner in that list. Maybe you shuold run...

    By Blogger Mark, at 12:17 PM  

  • Make your vote

    http://www.demochoice.org/dcballot.php?poll=lib2006

    here.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:45 PM  

  • There aren't a lot of Western candidates out there, that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dosanj or McLellan run, but it'd just be to raise their influence. And Christy Clark keeps geting mentioned...

    It's too bad, because we could sure use some help out here.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 1:01 PM  

  • Seems to me, this is just another "testing the waters" technique. Let some anonymous source "close" to the candidate lead people to think you might not run, leave some time before any "formal announcement" and hope that it stirs a groundswell of calls and emails urging your candidate to "reconsider".

    Perhaps,McKenna and his team realize that the "grassroots" will simply not allow a Martinite style leadership campaign again.

    Whether fair game or not, McKenna's perception as having the same camp or team as Martin has caused a lot of concern. The LPCO "player" who contacted me about Frank McKenna last week was also a big pusher of Paul Martin in my area of the province during the last leadership.

    I dont care if Frank McKenna runs or not, but I remain hopeful that the field is large, the timing sufficient and the campaign open and fair.

    By Anonymous North of French River, at 1:09 PM  

  • I didn't follow the link, but I assume it's the McKenna-not-running story.

    I think McKenna and Manley know something that the public doesn't about the future value of the Liberal leadership.

    By Blogger Toronto Tory, at 1:12 PM  

  • How about Bull-in-Duh?

    Why not have a unilingual high school graduate nepot as the leader of the Liberal party? Although she's hated in several parts of the county, but it's not like the Fibs are going to get any votes in Alberta anyway!

    By Anonymous Kathleen, at 1:17 PM  

  • Thank god he's not. We have no use for a pro-life leader of the Liberal party. Martin may not have personally supported abortion, but McKenna spent his entire time as premier of NB fighting against Morgantaler.

    Good riddance, now lets make sure Iggy wins this.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:20 PM  

  • Iggy, Dion, Brison and Belinda sounds like a good race to me..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:25 PM  

  • AL: You missed David Orchard. Wonder what he'll make the front runner sign on a napkin?

    Speaking of napkins, why not cut out the middlemen and just run Buzz.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:33 PM  

  • Money is part of the problem, but only part.

    The bigger problem will be the time they need to rebuild & mend internal fences. Best case for the next leader is a shot at being PM in 6+ years.

    So if they are going to wait, why not make some cash for themselves.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:43 PM  

  • The old Conservatives were reduced to 2 seats in '93. The Liberals were "reduced" to ~102 seats. The optics are that the Liberals didn't experience a spectacular defeat, but, the truth is, they did. McKenna and Manley know it, and that is why they are not running.

    Many of the Liberals that won beat second-rate candidates. For example, in BC, the Liberals won Richmond, North Vancouver and West Vancouver, because the Conservative riding associations had a short window to find candidates and ended up with three individuals with ties to Focus on the Family. Now the Cons can recruit with the promise of being in gov't. You won't see overt ties to Focus on the Family in urban ridings any more.

    It is an ugly time to be a Liberal. Here's hoping for an exciting and open leadership race followed by an inclusive closing of ranks. Anything less would be political suicide for the party.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:46 PM  

  • There's obviously something going on inside the top brass. Hopefully someone will spill the beans.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:55 PM  

  • Next Ambassador: Mulroney?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:56 PM  

  • This actually sounds like good news to me. Frank had a lot of baggage and was the favorite. Now we endup with a real horse race. I think Tobin is now a slight favorite especially since he won't split the maritime delegates.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:01 PM  

  • How about Joe Clark for the western rep. and don't forget about Buzz for his stellar work.

    By Blogger DJeffery, at 2:07 PM  

  • Buzz could be the Herring Chocker's candidate of choice with McKenna's withdrawal.

    By Blogger DJeffery, at 4:09 PM  

  • I'm putting my money on Belinda. The rich elites tried to get her in the top spot at the Tories, only to be stonewalled by the Stephen Harper machine. They REALLY want one of theirs in the PMO. Stephen Harper is the anti-elite, they are going to be doing everything they can to see that Belinda can take a shot at him.

    Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if McKenna gets a nice posting at Magna after all this... ;)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:51 PM  

  • With Harper at the helm and Paulie gone, I can just smell that delicious Conservative majority in fall 2008. 170-230 seats anyone?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:19 PM  

  • It's unlikely the conservative government will last once they no longer get to play with the Liberal B, er, C, er D team.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:25 PM  

  • No Captain wants to command a sunken ship.

    Belinda crosed to board the Titanic and it sank but be darned if she didn't claw aboard a lifeboat. Now will that bit of luck ever make it to shore?
    Brian Tobin is a contender, but the ship has to be salvaged first.

    Renewal of the Liberal Party?

    First, the question of facing the courts. A minimum of 10 $billion of our money has been syphoned off. Liberals should pay fair penalties for that.

    Starving health care and education to create a surplus does not imply the right to stuff pockets with some of that budget surplus.

    34 $million in debt and who knows how much in penalties and fines that may also become due.

    Re-think for Liberals: Liberals are infested with crooks. Those crooks must be seen to walk the plank, otherwise one can not expect to regain Canadian voter respect.

    Liberal popularity is still spiraling downward and that will continue as the public learns of the full list of rip - offs.

    List of 218 *Low Points*, Toronto Sun by Linda Williams
    January 22nd

    Different list of 200+
    BendGovernment

    Canadians were aware of Adscam and a scam here and there. Wait for the backlash when they learn about the much wider scope of fraud these lists represent.

    When the MSM*s fear Harper trick is better understood, there should be a backlash there also.

    Rocky roads ahead for Liberals. TG

    By Blogger TonyGuitar, at 4:02 AM  

  • Calgary Grit has been tolerant of all kinds of debate. Wise enough to admit that the Chretien Liberals slipped into loose accounting habits.

    I admire one who can remain open minded when his team is failing badly. One who does not lash out in anger.

    Many things that contribute to our better quality of life in Canada were delivered by the Liberal party.

    Conservatives and Liberals trash each other in the house. They are all Canadians generally making a contribution to Canadians.

    If Liberals are seen to remove the *crooked members* from the party, and contribute to Harper's integrity moves, there is every chance for recovery of respect.

    If justice is skirted, Liberal party fortunes will fade.

    The sting of defeat will wear off quickly for respected Liberal bloggers like this one. TG

    By Blogger TonyGuitar, at 4:55 PM  

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