Monday, December 26, 2005

Paul Martin's Braintrust...

...has had a tough couple of months, eh? Herle, Reid, Duffy...now Mike Klander. I'm taking bets on how long it will be before Karl Littler does something incredibly stupid.

While it's not exactly shocking to see the Board mess up, there are two surprising things about this:

1. It wasn't Scott Feschuck's blog that got the Liberals in trouble.
2. Someone named Klander made fun of someone else's last name...in a somewhat racist way...ouch.

This may have been the best Christmas present Stephen Harper and Jack Layton could have asked for.


UPDATE: I was going to spend Boxing Day sifting through the archives to find the juiciest bits from Klander's slander, but Stephen Taylor has the "highlights" detailed here.

82 Comments:

  • See my 9:50 pm post on the December 23 article for a long litany of Mike Klander's attempts at "humour". He channels Parizeau and Kim Campbell, mocks the disabled, makes fun of Chretien's facial features - as Kinsella says, you can't make this stuff up!

    By Blogger Patrick, at 12:39 AM  

  • You know CG, you might want to tell your boys that the competition on revmod's gaffeometer is more like golf than football. Low score wins...

    I also wasn't aware that Steven Harper's scary hidden agenda was to have aliens abduct Cheryl Gallant and Randy White and have them returned to earth in the bodies of senior Liberal strategists and communications directors. It's worked very well though.

    As Patrick notes, that entire website is one ongoing gaffe, taking cruel and unnecessary shots at people. These are things that you don't even say to your best friend at 5am after a kegger. We are definitely going to go to town on this guy though. Should give the opposition parties very, very big bumps in all the Toronto ridings, since he's a very senior guy on the Ianno campaign. Say goodbye to Trinity Spadina! HAHAHAHA!

    Speaking of which that's 2 ridings where senior execs have screwed up, along with Mr. Apotex in Oakville.

    By Anonymous annextraitor, at 12:56 AM  

  • Hi Bart,

    I'm 95% sure the Klander blog is a fraud. Look at the google cache page; compare the url searched and the url in the title.

    Give this two days and it will blow up in someone's face (and not Klander's)

    By Blogger buckets, at 1:11 AM  

  • I believed it when I first read it, but now I'm not so sure. This hasn't been reported anywhere but Wells' blog. I realize that Christmas Day is the ultimate slow news day, but that still strikes me as a bit odd. It's also interesting that we haven't had a denial, though. I honestly don't know what to make of it.

    By Blogger Idealistic Pragmatist, at 1:22 AM  

  • Denial - I can see that's going to happen a lot. You're right, this is just too unbelievable. And for that reason, I don't take umbrage at your accusing me of fraud.

    However, it's all completely true. And you too can find the items I located. All you have to do is to go to Google and Yahoo, the two search engines that cache sites. Put in a variety of search terms, but be sure to have "Mike Klander" in quotation marks in each one. The ones I recall using are Chow, Layton, and the different months (May through December). In Google, it's easier to use advanced search - you can choose 100 at a time to go through faster. Whenever you find something from each of the months, click on the link "cache".

    Since I have no way to influence what either Google or Yahoo cache, you can now be 100% certain these are the real thing.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 1:29 AM  

  • Buckets, then why would Klander get so mad at a Toronto Star reporter after he was caught?

    It's a conspiracy... or another Liberal was caught red handed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 AM  

  • And it will blow up in someone else's way.. a certain Paul Martin.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:32 AM  

  • It's on Nealenews, though that's just a link to Paul Wells.

    Wells also claims that Klander attacked a Toronto Star reporter who blew the whistle on the blog. If anyone reads that they could try and find a story.

    This site links to klander from 04 and it seems to be a Liberal supporter http://wakelin.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_wakelin_archive.html

    Using the blog search tool, you get an apology on the site from Thursday: http://search.blogger.com/?ui=blg&q=blogurl%3Ahttp://klander.blogspot.com/&scoring=d

    As to the URL variance: he just didn't bother changing the hosting of the site but wanted to promote the website for his consulting business. It doesn't smell like a fraud and Paul Wells is a rather astute guy. We'll see more tomorrow and Tuesday.

    By Anonymous annextraitor, at 1:33 AM  

  • It must be pretty sad to be a Liberal hack.. stuck in the war room on Christmas day and having to log onto blogs to defend Klander. Merry Christmas!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:34 AM  

  • So if I have a webpage and call it "Microsoft.Com" but it's hosted at another URL then it's a fraud?

    Sure, that's a fraud.

    But it's not a fraud if I run a site called Klander.Com and I also title a free Blogger site "Klander.Com".

    UseYourBrain.Org before you chime in about fraud. Telling us Klander was abducted by aliens and had his brain replaced by Randy White is more believable.

    Merry Christmas SUCKERS.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:37 AM  

  • Patrick. Yes, google cache can show you that there used to be a blog at klander.blogspot.com.

    But we don't know who set up that blog and when the postings were made.

    In theory, it's a great trick, no? Set up a blog in someone elses name. Make them look like an ass-hole. Then do a screen capture. Then delete the blog.

    I haven't seen the Toronto Star story you mention yet: there is nothing at their site.

    By Blogger buckets, at 1:43 AM  

  • Another confirmation..

    Hey Wakelin,

    I've checked out your blog about three times now, and the valuable addition today was to learn that Klander has a blog. I perused that too. Good fun.

    Main reason I looked you up, though, was to actually try to pose a work question over the weekend. Couldn't find a personal email for you though. Ah well.

    Question pertains to whether there will be a redistribution mtg in Ottawa the week of Oct 3-7, as was last discussed on phone some time ago.

    (I forgive you missing a rather uneventful conf call to do a little Katrina fundraiser dinner with genuine jambalaya and andouille sausage)

    Cheers,

    Andrew C, Ottawa
    andrew_s_cameron@yahoo.com

    http://wakelin.blogspot.com/2005/09/poker-and-jamabalaya.html

    who the hell is this Andrew Cameron character?

    Could it possible be this guy:

    Andrew Cameron joins LPC as Communications Officer. A bilingual Ottawan, he holds a Carleton University Journalism degree and started in politics as a Carleton-Leeds Parliamentary intern. An active member of the Liberal Party of Canada (Ontario) and Ontario Liberal Party based in Ottawa South, he has worked locally on three federal and two provincial campaigns in a wide variety of leadership roles since 1996. Professionally, he has served in various government relations and communications capacities for the CRTC, the Canadian Association of Broadcasters, and the Canadian AIDS Society in Ottawa.

    Field Organizer Chris Wakelin for the Ontario Liberals.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:46 AM  

  • anon. No it's not against the law to call the blog whatever you want. But why would you call it this.

    Face it. Blogspot is a simple place to create a quick blog. I could set up a fake (pick a name here).blogspot.com blog in 15 minutes.

    And go look at his links. Is a top Liberal operative going to have as his links the Drudge Report and the Cato institute?

    Finally, go to technorati and see if anyone in the life of this blog has ever linked to it. That's kind of odd for a blog that's supposed to be six to eight months old.

    By Blogger buckets, at 1:47 AM  

  • Or you can use your pea sized brain and not assume everything is a conspiracy.

    Oh the sponsorship scandal, bunch of Bloc lies.. it's not true. Few months later, it's a rogue group of Liberal insiders.

    Some idiot, for months has been posting idiot comments to his idiot public blog. He also created other stupid idiot blogs to link to the first idiot blog. Intertwine enough Liberanos up the ying yang. Yes, this is a brilliant way to embarass the Liberals. Almost as ingenius as a secret tape recording.. but sorry, Gremant isn't running this site. A certain idiot named Mike Klander.

    Sorry, it is Christmas and you're not dreaming.

    This isn't Watergate... I'm not Woodward, but I can add 2 + 2.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:49 AM  

  • Tell us something we don't know.

    We know it's easily to create a public Blogger site. It takes work to post insulting posts for months and then be somehow surprised to see it used against yourself.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:57 AM  

  • OK, buckets, I understand you have the night shift at the dissembling department, but you should really try to wake up long enough to use some logic in your argument.

    It's simply not possible to perpetrate a fraud on this scale. And if you believe it is, then you likely suspect that either Elvis or Santa did it.

    Whatever it is you're taking, you shouldn't take anymore of it.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 2:00 AM  

  • And Klander's linking to the Cato Institute is probably more of a reflection of the kind of Martin Liberals then being an "out" for him..

    Sure it would be suspicious to have Shiela Copps link to the Cato Institute on her site, but from what we've seen from Martin & Co. it wouldn't be that out of place...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:03 AM  

  • If the Blog is forgery, then the question of who built it arises. Would it the a Tory or a Liberal ?

    If a Liberal tried to manufacture a story this way in order to get retraction and excuses some days later from media and opponents who amplify the story, then the party is busted because the Chow comparison would still come from a Liberal.

    Would a Conservative do that ? Possible, but I think any sleazy guy who knows how to create appearances would not put links to the Cato Institute, Drudge, and NealeNews on a faked Liberal blog. MoveOn and TDH would have been better choices.

    If the blog is forgery then it's botched work. I think Harper and the rest of the Tory gang should refrain from commenting the story and just let the media break the crusty details. Layton cannot possibly stay silent, that's just below the belt.

    Strange things can happen, especially in politics, my hunch is that blog might have been created by Liberals still, but not necessarily by Klander. Conservatives are just too overchecked by media to entertain themselves with these tactics.

    I may be wrong, but that's what came up to my mind reading the recent comments.

    Happy hollidays

    By Anonymous M Morin, at 2:08 AM  

  • Okay, we'll let this ferment.

    See what happens in the morning.

    But if we saw suspicious signs, we would post them. But I haven't see one thing other that would get my spidey senses to tingle.

    Election Campaign unexpectedly restarts on Monday December 26, 2005.

    Sorry, all the Liberanos will have to take more sick/vacation time to pile back into the war room.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:09 AM  

  • Patrick. It would not be difficult to pull something like this off.

    I think a person would have to be pretty stupid to try it, frankly. If you got caught there'd be a defamation suit that could be ruinous.

    But I'm not going to argue about this, since within 48 hours or so we'll know.

    Enjoy! (But remember, the bigger the blow up now, the bigger the backlash when it becomes clear that this is a fraud.)

    Good night all!

    By Blogger buckets, at 2:14 AM  

  • If Reid can say "beer and popcorn" on national television, then imagine what kind of chit chat they do behind closed doors?

    Well, we get a small glimpse of it through this blog.

    You say to yourself, no one can be this stupid. But then also consider the next time you use a lawnmower that for some reason it has a warning you not to stick your hand near the blade when running.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:16 AM  

  • Wishful thinking isn't a very good point to fall back on...

    He says it wouldn't be difficult to pull off.

    Staging the moon landing wouldn't be difficult to pull off either.

    Staging an alien autopsy woudln't be difficult to pull off either.

    Do you want to stand behind UFOs and aliens.. or face the facts?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:20 AM  

  • This won't help you make money with Income Trusts..

    But here's an insider tip for BlogShares... BUY SOME MIKEKLANDER BLOGSPOT SHARES THIS MORNING! I expect prices to surge tomorrow!

    http://blogshares.com/blogs.php?blog=http%3A%2F%2Fklander.blogspot.com%2F&PHPSESSID=b994347760d493caa4515007bfb2af79

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:28 AM  

  • buckets, I don't mind your skepticism. How anyone who claims to be a political consultant could be this stupid is beyond imagining. And the evidence is so strong that I am 100% certain even you will have to finally accept it.

    For those of us who harbour no such doubts, I guess the discussion now turns to estimating the damage to the Liberal brand. As numerous bloggers have pointed out, this would have been fatal to the Conservative Party, even if the guy resigned. There will be a bit of a double standard - the news media can decline to cover it as "old news" on Monday, or give it only cursory attention. However, when I think of all of the gaffes on which the media has jumped, at the behest of the Natural Governing Party, I'm hopeful they will see it is not in the interests of their credibility to give this guy a pass, just because he resigns for the good of the party.

    That's even assuming he has the sense to resign.

    For those who will downplay this guy's importance: He is the Executive Vice-President of the Liberal Party of Canada. He is their number two person. He describes himself as a key supporter and organizer for Paul Martin during his leadership bid. He is a paid lobbyist for a number of very large groups and organizations. No one this senior has, in at least the last half century, done anything close to this stupid.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 2:40 AM  

  • One more point..

    BUCKET says:

    "And go look at his links. Is a top Liberal operative going to have as his links the Drudge Report and the Cato institute?"

    Klander links to the Drudge Report on his official site. A TOP LIBERAL OPERATIVE DOES HAVE LINKS TO THE DRUDGE REPORT ON HIS SITE.

    http://www.mikeklander.com/links.html

    What is that saying? GAME, SET, MATCH?

    He also links to a site called MyChoice.Ca which looks like it's a promo for Imperial Tobacco.

    It just matches the rhetoric on his blog:

    Friday, July 29, 2005
    Get off my back!
    I'm really get sick and tired of excessive government...telling me what to do, what not to do and what's best for me...

    You can't own a pitbull
    You can't buy a coke in highschool cafeteria
    You smoke a cigarette in a park in California
    You can't catch a sunfish off your dock without a licence
    You can't cut down a tree without an inspector
    You can't have a camp fire without a licence
    You have to buy liquor in a government run store
    You can't buy a beer at the corner store
    Kids have to learn about Kwanza at Christmas
    You can't wear saggy jeans in South Carolina
    You can't eat sushi unless it been frozen (recinded)

    Here's a Google search from today's news alone:

    "Spanish government bans smoking in forests"
    "Australia bans Grand Theft Auto computer game"
    "Britain bans Kenyan transport Minister"

    Come on...what's next?

    Oreos banned?
    Smoking prohibited in cars?
    Warning labels on Big Macs?
    Compositing human waste?
    New brown bins for polymers?
    posted by Mike Klander at 7:54 AM 1 comments

    http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:3jiYKJIy_BsJ:klander.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_klander_archive.html+klander+smoking&hl=en

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:50 AM  

  • Well Brian Mulroney said some dumb things, but I guess he thought it would be kept private.. or not.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:51 AM  

  • And don't tell me that http://www.mikeklander.com/links.html is some kind of fraudulent site.. please. Even I wouldn't say 100%, but you can't start speculating about a Conservative fraud and that it will blow up in someone else's face in two days.

    I can accept this pansy excuse.. "I want to see all the evidence first." But sorry, Gomery can't save you twice in one year.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:53 AM  

  • We are laying the ground work that Paul Wells and others have already published..

    If the CTV, CBC, Globe and Mail can't follow the trail then maybe Rathergate will give them enough chills to chime in.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:55 AM  

  • And someone please register Klandergate.Com

    Compile all the Google cached pages, graphics and a collection of important factoids.

    Keep a blog and report on how the media is covering this. Link to the other blogs. We've seen this done before, this isn't rocket science.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:57 AM  

  • I'm surprised anyone is claiming the Klander blog is a fraud.

    Klander's blog links to that of Chris Wakelin.

    Wakelin himself blogrolls Klander's blog under 'Sites I check every day,' saying of his Liberal friend, 'By his bitching, you would think he is 65, or a Tory.'

    In one post, Wakelin refers to fellow blogger Klander as his 'good friend,' and endorses his run for the VP position with the federal Liberal party in Ontario.

    Would those questioning the Klander blog's authenticity like us to believe the Wakelin blog is part of the same conspiracy?

    By Blogger Stephen, at 3:14 AM  

  • This will only be a gift for the Tories if it gets outside the very small group of bloggers and blog readers and into the mainstream press. Even _if_ it gets the attention of Newman or CPAC, it won't make a dent unless it is on 'The National' or the CTV news.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:58 AM  

  • in a somewhat racist way

    There was no racism or sexism on the blog, Bart.

    By Blogger Robert McClelland, at 9:18 AM  

  • I withdraw my initial scepticism.

    From The Toronto Star, December 23, 2005 Friday ( Pg. A06): Federal New Democrats are mad about a blog posting by an Ontario Liberal organizer comparing NDP candidate Olivia Chow to a dog.

    The web page, operated by Mike Klander, showed a picture of Chow, wife of NDP Leader Jack Layton, and below it a picture of a "Chow Chow" dog with the caption "Separated at Birth." In fact, the dog resembles a Pekingese, which had some New Democrats crying racism. The blog was removed soon after the Star contacted senior Liberals seeking comment.

    "I further understand he (Klander) has apologized. Those were, in my view, the appropriate actions," said Steve MacKinnon, executive director of the Liberal Party.

    Chow said she was "saddened" by the swipe: "I'll debate policy anytime but to descend to this level is quite disappointing.

    By Blogger buckets, at 9:27 AM  

  • Yeah, it looks legit.

    I imagine the lack of media focus stems from the Christmas break. Layton really should go on the attack over this once he gets back on the campaign trail. Harper too.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 11:25 AM  

  • Robert; OK, maybe not racist (although why someone like Klander should be given the benefit of the doubt is beyond me) - but, at the very least, juvenille, stupid, and offensive.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 11:27 AM  

  • I'm not particularly surprised that this is legit. Martin's team of advisers makes Gurmant Grewal look like a skilled political operative.

    By Blogger Scott Tribe, at 11:48 AM  

  • And we have to accept Robert's opinion, because that anti-semitic jew hating Nazi bigot knows rascism when he sees it, or spews it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:07 PM  

  • No one said it was the Klander Klan... but leave it up to the public to decide what the blog was.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:33 PM  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 1:38 PM  

  • Dust My Broom (http://dustmybroom.com/?p=2453#comments)
    has, in his comments section, links to the April, May, June, July, November, and December cached archives. Go through them, and then tell me this guy is not racist, homophobic, and crude. The "ethnic Rahim Jaffer"? Who uses language like that in referring to a person from a visible minority, other than someone wanting to emphasize the race of the person? KKKlander is a human rights disaster for the Liberal Party, speaking in code and overtly to emphasize his backward views. Please don't excuse it or minimize it. He certainly wouldn't do either had the shoe been on the other foot. He would have made certain whichever politician or political leader from another party paid big time.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 1:40 PM  

  • Forget about Susan Murray and John Duffy, someone get some morphine ready... When Hedy Fry hears about this, she might go into shock.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:07 PM  

  • Since it is still the Christmas season, I should still be allowed atleast one more Xmas metaphor.

    Went away from the campaign, we were in Bedford Falls, and came back to Pottersvile.

    The transformation is amazing. We have Klander making Reid seem sensitive to the needs of parents. S. Copps is givng advice to CPC candidates, and in today's National Post Thomas Axworthy lavishing praise upon Ronald Reagan.

    Next thing you'll tell me is that the CPC actually have a fighting chance at winning this thing. (nah, we can always snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory)

    Ken

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:36 PM  

  • Klander has resigned.

    By Blogger Idealistic Pragmatist, at 6:34 PM  

  • Paul Wells just posted an update on the resignation:

    Chronicles of Warned-ya

    http://weblogs.macleans.ca/paulwells/

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:44 PM  

  • I don't think this will have any long term impact on the campaign, because the fellow has resigned and apologized.

    When Conservatives make mistakes like this, they typically don't resign and they don't apologize. Look at for example Grewal not resigning-or Harper not apologizing for his gaffe about child porn in the last election.

    The media, like all fair minded people, do not like when people don't apologize. This is the whole point. The media tends to move on from there.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:18 PM  

  • Yeah, if Hitler apologized it would all be good..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:50 PM  

  • HE APOLOGIED TO CHOW. BUT THE LIBERALS ARE JUST ARE APOLOGISTS..

    From a CP story:

    Though Klander's comments were regretful, it's not uncommon for political blogs of all stripes to cross certain boundaries, Heckbert said.

    "Partisan blogs get a little heated, particularly around election time," he said. "You'd see some language that might curl your hair."

    http://www.brandonsun.com/story.php?story_id=14278

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:00 PM  

  • How to respond to this courtesy of the Chretien Liberals:

    "Many Tories, such as campaign advisor Hugh Segal, contend that the backlash that followed was mostly manufactured. The Liberal Party did unquestionably mobilize its members to call media outlets. This effort was lead by Roméo LeBlanc, who was manning the Liberal war room, and who organized the counter-attack minutes after the ad premiered."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Chr%C3%A9tien_ad

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:06 PM  

  • So, according to the Liberal Party of Canada's official spokesperson, we're all to blame. Every blogger who blogs on political matters should now hang our heads in shame. If we have something to resign, we should do it now. After all, "Though Klander's comments were regretful, it's not uncommon for political blogs of all stripes to cross certain boundaries, Heckbert said. 'Partisan blogs get a little heated, particularly around election time," he said. "You'd see some language that might curl your hair.' "

    See, it's all right now. Klander was just trying to fit in.

    Don't you think CP would get tired of being misled by the Liberal war room's spin? It looks like this reporter didn't even look at any of the subsequent discoveries from Klander's archives. And didn't care whether she wrote a piece containing actual news.

    On the positive side, the fact that it was carried as a CP story means it will be carried by newspapers across Canada. For a day or two.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 9:35 PM  

  • Here's the link to the full CP report, by the way:
    http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News/NationalNewsArticle.htm?src=n122625A.xml

    By Blogger Patrick, at 9:39 PM  

  • CTV News had a story about Klander..

    Anyhow, it also only made reference to the Jack Layton asshole and Chow Chow posts.

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051216/ELXN_liberal_fired_051226/20051226?s_name=election2006

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:50 PM  

  • So does the CBC:

    http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/12/26/liberal-051226.html

    By Anonymous Deanna, at 11:12 PM  

  • Interesting - the CBC story doesn't include the CP/Liberal spin that this is something that happens on political blogs.

    In any case, I guess the real question is whether this story has legs. My guess? It can't help it, and the Liberal spin may have indirectly contributed to that. They could have come clean on all of the misogynist, racist, homophobic and plain old stupid things on the website over several months. Or they could have focused the news story on the attack on Chow. Canadians who weren't targeted by this fool might forgive and forget, but I doubt Indo-Canadians will appreciate being referred to as "ethnics" and Chinese-Canadians as dogs.

    The Liberal response was plain stupid to not zero down to the specific things Klander did wrong, identify them, and then declare them unacceptable, in any forum, by one of their officials. Sunlight is still the best disinfectant.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 11:33 PM  

  • I think that Harper's response that this is yet another example of the Liberal Party's use of personal attacks is the correct way for him to deal with this issue. The Liberal Party had planned to use the next three weeks to attack HArper personally. Klandergate will make it more difficult to adopt this strategy.

    By Anonymous Two Cents, at 12:18 AM  

  • Robert; OK, maybe not racist (although why someone like Klander should be given the benefit of the doubt is beyond me)

    Because presumption of innocence until proven guilty is what separates us from the right whingers.

    - but, at the very least, juvenille, stupid, and offensive.

    On that we can agree. Humour can be your worst enemy if you don't know how to wield it and clearly Klander does not.

    By Blogger Robert McClelland, at 12:29 AM  

  • the libs keep on issuing passes for Harper:

    beer and popcorn
    chicken man
    holocoast memorial
    KLANders

    the Board thought competence & national unity were their last 2 issues and they're yielding that high ground again and again and again.

    keep up the good work.

    By Anonymous yyc, at 12:45 AM  

  • Whatever happens with the Liberals, Martin's entire staff should be fired for gross incompetence. They simply do not know what they are doing. They apparently want to go negative, but they still have not quoted Harper calling Canada “second tier”, “second rate”, “smug” and “resentful”. They still have not quoted Harper saying that whether Canada survives is “secondary”.

    The only ones not to realize their true talent ahead of time seem to be Martin and various Canwest knuckle heads; unable to countenance the fact that most Canadians just do not like Harper or his policies, the Vancouver Sun ran a series of articles back in October and November about what evil geniuses the beer and popcorn boys are.

    You would think that having being hopelessly wrong about how Canadians felt/feel about Bush, Harper, Iraq and BMD that Canwest would clean house and bring in fresh faces. Anyway, I digress.

    All that said, what is the big deal about the Harper and Duceppe picture? Was it a slow news day?

    By Blogger Koby, at 5:59 AM  

  • All that said, what is the big deal about the Harper and Duceppe picture?

    For what it's worth, The Tyee (an online mag from BC) used that same picture for an article about Harper and Duceppe.
    http://snipurl.com/l30d

    By Blogger Red Tory, at 6:49 AM  

  • Columnist Michael Harris talks about Klander in his discussion of the campaign scandals, and how the Liberals seem to be getting away with them. At the time of his writing the column, it appears that Klander hadn't yet resigned.
    http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Harris_Michael/2005/12/26/1369062.html

    The part about Klander:
    And now we have Mike Klander. When Martin ordered the hit on Sheila Copps, it was Klander, his former Ontario leadership organizer, who pulled the trigger. Mikey the Bull is now a senior executive in the Liberal Party of Canada.

    An enterprising blogger paid a visit to Klander's own blog and you'll never guess what he found: A picture of Olivia Chow, the politician, beside a Chow Chow, the canine variety, with the caption, "Separated at birth." Imagine for a moment if that picture and those words had been found on the website of John Reynolds, for example, or Rick Anderson?

    And there was more. Klander thought the wardrobe choices of certain rival candidates made them look "gay" and referred to NDP Leader Jack Layton as an "a--hole." Aw c'mon, Mike, why not just call him a dog, even if he isn't Asian?

    By Blogger Patrick, at 7:53 AM  

  • Harper has now reacted.
    http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=35068

    Excerpt:
    Harper Hopes Negative Campaign Backfires on Liberals
    Josh Pringle
    Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:41 AM

    Conservative leader Stephen Harper is hoping the Liberals negative campaign will backfire with voters.

    Harper made the comments on Boxing Day while making a brief campaign appearance in Calgary.

    By Blogger Patrick, at 7:56 AM  

  • The Liberals staying near 40% in the polls after Adscam proved that almost half of our fellow citizens don't mind being governed by organized criminals.

    I guess we'll find out now if Canadians have anything against being governed by racists.

    For those who would excuse Klander's 'Chow' post as immature wordplay, I disagree. What he did is equivalent to posting a picture of a black person beside a gorilla under the 'Separated at Birth' banner. There's no difference.

    The media is in full spin mode, putting Klander's posts in the category of "negative advertising". How innocent. How convenient.

    And for anyone who would stand up for this lowlife, look into your heart and ask yourself what your reaction would be if this bile came from a Conservative. Would you defend this behaviour then? I didn't think so.

    Sticking with the Liberals' friends (i.e the MSM), I almost choked on my turkey leftovers last night when Mortimer Duke (aka Craig Oliver) came on to discuss John Gomery being named as Canada's Newsmaker of the Year.

    Oliver said that Gomery's report 'denied Canadians the benefit of having a majority government' and that Gomery is responsible for 'enraging Quebeckers and bringing the separatist movement from the fringe to the verge of victory'

    Talk about 'effed' up logic. To hear this senile old bastard tell it, the Libranos had nothing to do with it. It's all Gomery's fault. According to Mortimer, it sounds like Martin should sue Gomery for defamation.

    One of Oliver's family members should hide his car keys before he turns into a total loon like Cronkite, in front of our eyes.

    By Anonymous gwgm, at 11:57 AM  

  • Such smart guys the Board. Someone said lets rope-a-dope our way through the campaign.

    So they did. They roped Betito. They roped Klander. And Reid is still hanging from his rope.

    On the 23rd we get to rope the whole Board.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:36 PM  

  • What's the big deal? I checked with Klander, Herle, Duffy and Reid and Paul Martin has been completely exonerated. Oh, and the economy is still doing great...especially in the Bahamas. So it still comes down to trust. Who do you trust? The thieves, liars, crooks, and racists you know or some guy that grew up in Toronto and moved to Calgary. Hmmm! That sounds scary. I better stick with the evil brain dead suckers that I know. At least they won't shred the charter and my rights to apply as a lobbyist to a corrupt government. After all, I am entitled to my entitlements.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:01 PM  

  • He just turned off www.klander.ca

    www.mikeklander.com still works

    Also, if you doubt the accuracy of the MSM. Check out this gem from the Globe and Mail:

    "Mr. Klander is a party organizer who has worked on leadership bids by Sheila Copps, Brian Tobin and Liberal Leader Paul Martin."

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051227/ELXNBLOG27/TPFront/TopStories

    Hahaha? HE WORKED FOR SHEILA COPPS? Get your facts straight suckers.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:06 PM  

  • So this is where Andrew Coyne's comments section went.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:54 PM  

  • Martin was just on TV. While at a Chanukkah celebration in Montreal, he spoke about.... wait for it... "minority rights" and "embracing diversity".

    You can't make this stuff up.

    Maybe he should start by putting his entire staff through racial sensitivity training.

    By Anonymous gwgm, at 5:33 PM  

  • Was that a campaign event or was Martin there getting Little Paul clipped?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:07 PM  

  • anon 1:54: coyne's site? it was acutally too many postings like anon 4:07 that led to him shutting down.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:58 PM  

  • Why do all Tories think that when the Liberals screw up, (like in this case, I can't really defend it) they will immediately vote Conservative? They think this is America, where there are only two parties really worth voting for. There's the NDP party, and in extreme cases, when there are no good MP's, the Green party.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:05 AM  

  • Why does every tree hugger and union commie think that every person that doesn't vote Liberal will be a pansy and vote NDP or Green?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:40 AM  

  • Anon 10:05: Personally, I'm happy with anyone who votes for the Not Liberal Party this time around. :)

    By Anonymous The Invisible Hand, at 1:03 AM  

  • The chickens have come home to roost in more ways than one. 10 years ago the Liberals chastized the conservatives for every bad apple. They have their own bad apples, and as it turns out they have many more bad apples.

    Yet more proof that liberals are more decietful and hypocritical than conservatives.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:09 PM  

  • Klander did work on the leadership campaign of Copps back in 1990, then he came back on orders by Martin to kick her out.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:52 PM  

  • Copps, TorSun:

    Klander, the son of hard-working immgirant steelworker parents in Hamilton, rose to great heights in the Liberal party by working hard to fit in. In the Martin backrooms, fitting in tends to mean "old boy" and bathroom humour, and ensuring your place is secured by tearing others down.

    I remember when, as a young high school student, he came into my office interested in knowing more about the Liberal party. His father was a diehard New Democrat, but Mike thought the Liberal Party might be a more realisitic way to help people. As a young man, he wanted to get involved to make things better. Over the years, it became simply about the win. My last images of Klander involve him working against me (and for the Martin/Tony Valeri side) in the ugly battle over the Liberal nomination in Hamilton East-Stoney Creek last year.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:36 PM  

  • SES polling, Dec. 21 - 23:

    Leadership index:

    Martin - 64

    Harper - 71

    By Anonymous springer, at 1:58 PM  

  • Klander and his other brother Klander? A tale of two photos.

    I. Holocaust memorial photo on the Klander blog

    Klander Blog, May 20 (archived at http://tinyurl.com/ba2wc):

    "Yes indeed, politics does make for strange bedfellows...but is there more to it? I would bet that his wife couldn't make his eyes roll back into his head like that".

    Toronto Star, December 26:

    "Klander was a volunteer and did not play an official role for the Liberals during this campaign, Heckbert said, adding he's apologized to Chow".

    ----------------------------

    II. Holocaust memorial photo used by the Liberal campaign

    Globe and Mail, December 23:

    "The anti-Harper messages were prepared by a volunteer in Ontario and approved in the spring by the Liberal Party of Canada, said Liberal spokeswoman Amy Butcher...Ms. Butcher said the anonymous volunteer who prepared the material has not been taken to task".

    ----------------------------

    Then again maybe the volunteer was a Lib-O VP and got fired a few days later when he got busted for the second time in a week?

    (cross posted to commentsplease with inline images).

    By Anonymous yyc, at 2:18 PM  

  • AS OF DEC. 24, 2005 IPSOS-REID POLL

    After a week following the debates, the survey shows that if a federal election were held tomorrow, 33% of voters would cast their ballot in support of the Liberals (-3 points), 32% would support the Conservatives (+5 points), 16% would support the NDP (-1 point) and 5% would support the Green Party (unchanged).
    In Quebec, the Bloc Quebecois (54%, -2 points) have a 30-point lead over the Liberals (24%, -1 point).

    Further, as it would appear that the federal vote race in Ontario has tightened (40% Liberals vs. 38% Conservatives), if a vote were held tomorrow, a Conservative led minority government would be the probable outcome.

    Ha... thanks for the memory Klander, bring on the buffet, Mr. Reid. Don't know bout you guys, but I'm not reading a whole lot into the polls. This one, and the others, were so far off base the last election, that they have zero credibility... but it's nice to see one swinging the other way for a change.

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