Saturday, April 02, 2005

Vote out Anders

I had the dubious chance to attend a Conservative function where Rob Anders was one of the speakers a few days ago. I have some Conservative friends and I figured it'd be good for a few laughs if nothing else. And Rob did not disappoint.

Maybe it was the fact that it was a Conservative event with no media or maybe he's just naturally insane. Either way, Rob had recently read a book on the decline of the Roman empire and couldn't help drawing parallels between the fall of Rome and modern Canadian society. The reasons Rome fell and the reasons Canada is in crisis today according to Mr. Anders?

Well, Rob started talking about all the splinter languages which formed in Rome and compromised the universal Latin. "He's not going to go there" I said to myself as he started this rant but, surely enough, he did. "Bilingualism is a problem today" Rob said. He complained that plaques that had been unilingual are now English and French and that it "didn't help" that people spoke "Chinese and Arab and other languages too" in Canada.

Completely shocked, he went on to explain why the clothes people wear today are a major problem. Since fewer and fewer people wear "respectable" clothes, there are some major problems on the horizon. This was followed with the predictable complaint about the lack of military spending. Then we got to Rob's favourite topic - "moral decay". "The problem with homosexuality and gay marriage" was that it led to a declining birth rate. He failed to elaborate on how the Romans forced gay people to breed but explained that they had tax breaks such that you didn't pay taxes if you had 5 children. Fair enough, but even with tax breaks, you aren't going to see a lot of gay people having five children since I'm pretty sure I can guess where Rob stands on gay adoption.

Finally, he touched on religion. Religion is on the decline in Canada and this has caused people to lose their moral compass according to Rob. Without religion (and by religion, I'm positive he meant "Christian religion", although he didn't say so), there's no way for people to know what's right or wrong. "You have to feel murder and thievery are wrong" if there's no church to tell you according to Rob. Personally, even though I'm a Liberal, I kind of feel thievery is wrong irrespective of what my Church tells me.

After listening to Rob speak for an evening, I truly hope the Liberals follow around the 10 or 12 most Anders-like Conservative MPs and wait for them to say stuff like this. It's a strategy that can't fail.

20 Comments:

  • To say nothing of the fact that the decline of Rome concided with the rise of Christianity, and the ultimate adoption of Christianity as the state religion helped not at all.

    By Blogger matt, at 5:24 PM  

  • i live in anders' riding and i'm desperate to see him gone. after the parties merged he somehow managed to drop 15,000 votes last election. clearly the former pc's did not vote for him.

    here's a site where constituents are organizing against him:

    http://www.voteoutanders.com/index2.shtml

    By Blogger robert mcbean, at 6:55 PM  

  • actually anders dropped by about 1900.
    http://www.elections.ca/gen/rep/37g/table12_alb_e.html
    those are the 2000 numbers
    these are the 2004 numbers
    http://www.elections.ca/scripts/OVR2004/default.html
    The good thing if you are an Anders fan is that his % went up, I do not think he is going anywhere unless he gets beat at a nomination meeting

    By Blogger iloveLaP, at 9:01 PM  

  • Where to begin?

    Roman society considered three children per family adequate. Beyond that was usually considered excessive: too many heirs, and a sign of a lack of sexual restraint. Infanticide and child abandonment were both very widespread, as were various forms of abortion. Homosexuality in Roman times was never especially widespread - that's a myth.

    Anyway, sounds like the typical crap coming from the Right these days: Canada sucks because it's progressive. Canada stinks because it's not red state America. We'd be better if we closed our minds, ignored the world and lived all nice and white, english and christian. Never mind making global connections in a world increasingly populated by strange off-colour folks.

    However, we need people like Anders in the CPC. He's a glaring reminder of the raw socon heart of that party.

    By Blogger Mark Francis, at 12:11 AM  

  • There was no pc candidate in the last election. Jim Silye got 13,000 votes in 2000. Where did those 13,000 votes go? Some of them went to the liberal candidate who picked up 3700 votes from 2000. There were also 5000 or so less voter turnout in 2004 in the riding. Anders always gets his core vote out, but i still think he lost almost all of the pc vote.

    But i do concede the point that it would be very hard to defeat him.

    By Blogger robert mcbean, at 1:56 AM  

  • The man called Nelson Mandela a terrorist and still Calgary West voted for him. Proof that you do not need to be learned or insightful to be a successful politician in Calgary, just Conservative.

    By Blogger Psychols, at 3:36 AM  

  • what an enlightend individual, he should teach history classes with Paul Jackson from the Calgary Sun. :P

    Can you imagine - Rob Anders, Minister of Canadian Heritage?? :P CRAZY!!

    By Blogger daveberta, at 5:38 PM  

  • Harper did appoint Larry Spencer, homosexuality should never have been legalized, families critic and Rob Merrifield, no to stem cell research, as health critic. Merrifield for those who do not know said the morning after pill posses a risk to women just weeks after an FDA panel of experts concluded by 28-0 vote that the drug was safe. According to one panel member, it is literally "safer than aspirin". According to Merrifield, "This drug is 50 times as potent as a birth control pill, and we're treating it like an aspirin.” The morning after pill is double dose of the birth control pill.

    By Blogger Koby, at 6:58 PM  

  • I bet those FDA scientists are the same people who thought of that crazy 'global warming' idea too! :P

    By Blogger daveberta, at 12:46 AM  

  • You're referring to the U of C event on Friday, correct?

    Anders didn't blame gays for Rome's birth rate (in fact, I don't recall him tying homosexuality to declining birth rates at all). Regarding the bilingualism thing, he pointed out that when they engraved the cornerstones of Parliament, they were in English only. It was only when bilingualism became the cause du jour that they felt the need to slap a bilingual plaque over top.

    Furthermore, his "Chinese and Arab" languages comment was in reference to how we'd be better served by using those as a second language instead of French in certain places (I suspect he was thinking of Vancouver, although he didn't specify).

    Speaking as someone who's not an Anders fan, I'm curious as to why you felt it necessary to distort what he said. Or perhaps you just have a bad memory?

    By Blogger The Invisible Hand, at 2:52 AM  

  • No, he didn't tie gays to Rome's birth rate. He mentioned gays with respect to Canada's declining birth rate. Then he went on to talk about Rome. He went off about abortion shortly after that so maybe that's what he was trying to get at but it sure came across to me that like he was blaming homosexuality for a low birth rate in Canada.

    And you agree that he was pretty anti-billingualism. I understood the "chinese and arab" comment differently than you, but that's the only real difference in our accounts.

    By Blogger calgarygrit, at 3:43 PM  

  • I am staunchly conservative, and from Calgary West. I just turned 18 so I have never voted, but honestly, I have no idea who I would vote for next election. Anders is a complete asshole and does not deserve my vote, but I want to support the CPC.

    The only thing I can think of is not voting this time around, and once done my engineering degree, trying to oust him either as an independant or at party nominations.

    Despite his overwhelming victories over the years, discontent with Anders is on the rise in Calgary West. We are conservative here in Calgary, but we are not bigots, and Anders is definitly representing our riding very poorly.

    So vote James McKenzie '09!

    By Blogger James, at 4:33 PM  

  • Oh come on, everybody knows you albertans are racists and bigots.

    It's the only province that ever hosted the KKK!

    We should trade "Little Texas" for Oregon... that would help.

    By Anonymous J. McNamara, at 4:22 AM  

  • only province to ever host the KKK? wow arent you an idiot, Moose Jaw used to be one of their main gathering points and strongholds. You people forget the fact that yes, Rob Anders may not be worth voting for, but I'd vote for him over any of the Looney Left anyday. Over Dion's Carbon Tax/(the New National Energy program), the NDP's complete ignorance toward the great Lakes destroying Manufacturing industries (hmmmmmm....do you think the unions has anything to do with that?).....gimme a break people, one day you will grow up, and become educated, and understand the Conservatism is based on facts, Liberalism is based on emotion

    By Blogger Ashley, at 11:46 PM  

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