Friday, April 21, 2006

Generational Change

While he couldn't land Jim Karygiannis, Gerard Kennedy has assembled an impressive team of young MPs to back his leadership bid. Feel free to check out the Globe story which is a good story, by the mere definition that it makes my guy look pretty good.

Feel free to continue last week's 191 comment discussion bellow...

Update: Gerard was at the head table with Rick Mercer, Brian Mulroney, Stephen Harper, Maude Barlow, and David Suzuki at the Mulroney environmental thing last night. Must have made for some interesting chit-chat...


  • Has anyone heard if Gagliano is going to run?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:17 a.m.  

  • Have not heard anything on that, but I heard that Grant Devine's cabinet has been engaged in top-level discussions with Harper's cabinet about how to run a smooth and efficient government.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:47 a.m.  

  • Gaglino will run when Rob Anders runs for the CPC leadership.

    I think I'll take vote for Gaglino rather than the racists Anders.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:54 a.m.  

  • In today's Globe & Mail re Mulroney event last night:

    "Few Liberals, with the exception of former deputy prime minister Sheila Copps and former Ontario education minister Gerard Kennedy, who is considering a run for the Liberal leadership, were at the dinner. Both were at the head table, and Mr. Kennedy looked very comfortable there, as the guest of comedian Rick Mercer. Mr. Mercer helped to introduce Mr. Mulroney."

    Whoa! Couldn't find more info about this but if you do, can you post it?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:58 a.m.  

  • Sorry, what was that about the playoffs?

    By Blogger Darrell, at 12:11 p.m.  

  • Forget the playoffs. There's only one game in town, for my money.

    Brison vs. Kennedy for the right to represent "Generational Change."

    Yessir. Because old people are bad, and young people vote.

    Compare CG's "generational change" quotes with #2 in this post

    By Blogger Gauntlet, at 12:31 p.m.  

  • Re: Globe Article on Kennedy Support
    A friend of mine who is close to the centre of the Kennedy Team tells me that in addition to the names mentioned in the article, Kennedy has secured the endorsements of Nipissing MP Anthony Rota, Brampton MP Ruby Dhalla and Churchill MP Tina Keeper. An impressive list of "new generation" MP's for sure. I suspect that even though Gerard is not a member of the federal caucus, his campaign will attract as many or more MP's as the other main contenders.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:31 p.m.  

  • Of course you guys want generation change. You want someone who will still be above ground when Harper retires.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:20 p.m.  

  • 2 years until Harper retires, that doesn't seem like that long a wait. Maybe Gerrard is too young.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:36 p.m.  

  • 11:36 to 12:20,

    Promise us you'll elect an old guy then. Hell it could be day after tomorrow. Draft Graham!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:40 p.m.  

  • (the 11:40 anon was from 11:20 anon to 11:36 anon)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:46 p.m.  

  • This is all well and good now, but I wonder where these MP's wil be on the convention floor when Kennedy drops after one or two ballots?


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:54 p.m.  

  • Kennedy has no degree. This guy reminds me more and more of Stockwell day.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:58 p.m.  

  • Gerard is too young. By the informal young caucus' definition, he's one of them - being 45. Would you trust your party with a youngster in charge? isn't it better to get a middle-aged person, like say, Bevilacqua?

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 2:03 p.m.  

  • Why?

    I have it on good authority that Kennedy doesn't think basic science is a tool of the devil and he has never once held a press conference - major or minor - in a wetsuit.

    By Blogger Ted Betts, at 2:05 p.m.  

  • The last comment was for Anonymous 11:58, not you Chucker.

    Bevliacqua is the same age as Kennedy by the way. And they are dinosaurs compared to young Brison at 38.


    By Blogger Ted Betts, at 2:14 p.m.  




    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:22 p.m.  

  • Cerberus

    Awesome comment at 12:05.

    Team Kennedy's new slogan - "Our guy doesn't need a degree to know that the Flintstones aren't a documentary."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:43 p.m.  

  • Jimmy K is no slouch. He was a pivotal Chretien bully in the 1990 leadership campaign. (Ref.: Lawrence Martin's Iron Man bio of da liddle guy.) He and Volpe could be quite the Greco-Roman wrestling tag team.

    Won't win, but they'll pull together quite the delegate bloc.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:13 p.m.  

  • Cerberus forgets to mention the worst of it:

    he left the press conference on a sea-doo with that water spout in plain view making him look like he ate some upsetting mexican food.

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 3:49 p.m.  

  • Chucker:

    Politics was so much more fun back then.

    In fact, I blame the whole Adscam thing on Stockwell Day. If he hadn't been chosen by you guys (I say that with a wink knowing what you think of him), the Libs might not have started to think they could get away anything without fear of ever losing to the Cons. So where's the "aiding and abetting" criminal investigation into good ol' Doris?


    By Blogger Ted Betts, at 4:28 p.m.  

  • Do Canadians want change? I think the dynamic was more politically favourable when it was status quo versus regressive Conservative change. With Kennedy it would be status quo versus progressive Liberal change. When the Tories represent continuity it is a bad situation polling-wise... Everyone knows Kennedy does not just give lip service to caring for the disadvantaged. He really cares, but anyone like that has historically been viewed skeptically by mainstream Canadians who believe people like that are prone to tamper with the economy to do things that seem noble but upset the business community and foreign capital. The Liberal party cannot afford to alienate business interests!!! Surely it is better to reassure business that progressive policies are applied at the margin and as more of a blocking of regressive conservative policies than as some sort of really heartfelt campaign. The Liberal party had great success campaigning from the left and governing from the right, but with Kennedy the wink and nod to business elites that this involves during campaigns may be lost to true believerism.

    This is not to say there are no lessons to be learned from the Martin experience. But the lessons are small ones not big ones. Jan 23 should be seen as a half full result, not half empty.

    Under Kennedy a lot of NDP voters would be picked up who previously saw the Liberals as too cynical, but what good is that if the Tories get a majority? Pick up 25 NDP seats while the Cons pick up 20 Liberal seats and 10 Bloc seats and where are the Liberals? With more seats but less power!

    - Pragmatic Blue Grit

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 a.m.  

  • Kennedy needs to work the Chamber of Commerce circuit this summer. Yes to cutting a ribbon to open some high tech incubator and ringing the opening bell at a stock exhange. No to any photo ops with union leaders, social activists, and the Maude Barlow set. Harper's success has been neo-con credentials that allow to move to the centre and hold his base (only Nixon could go to China). Kennedy's social justice cred means he can take a similar approach by shunning the lefty activists to press the flesh on Bay St while keeping most of his idealist base in the bag. I fear, however, that Kennedy would feel a bit phony talking about productivity instead of poverty. He needs to put some of that integrity of his on the shelf like any realistic politician must.

    - Pragmatic Blue Grit

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:28 a.m.  

  • Cerberus,

    Its lying around somewhere with the insta-dinosaur bones.

    By Blogger Tarkwell Robotico, at 11:38 a.m.  

  • "Everyone knows Kennedy does not just give lip service to caring for the disadvantaged. "

    Aren't social programs the responsibility of provincial governments ? For a party who wore buttons saying "It's the Constitution, stupid", you guys are reinforcing your image of not understanding how this federation is supposed to be run. Check out section 91 of the BNA Act, where it talks about federal responsibilites, then show me something, anything, that comes remotely close to the feds feeding the disadvantaged.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:06 p.m.  

  • Social Programs are the responsibility of provincial governments. However the Federal government has always provided a lot of revenue for welfare programs and the like. It wasn't that long ago that the Federal government paid half the bill.

    People who think Kennedy is too young, well age is in the eye of the beholder. I look at the guy as in my Dad's generation, he seems old enough to me.

    By Blogger Kegger, at 3:53 p.m.  

  • Harper is 46, Kennedy is 45.

    Kennedy is the perfect age to take on Harper

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:04 p.m.  

  • Harper is Taurusm Kennedy is Gemini - are we sure we want to go through with this?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:38 a.m.  

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    By Blogger Greg, at 4:53 a.m.  

  • Good point. Change is inevitable. The question is can role with the change and still remain true to your ideals.

    By Anonymous Quotes About Change, at 7:28 p.m.  

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